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ktlkrn(at)cox.net Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: Pro G hub |
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As typical of many discussions people throw out comments without specific experience with the product. After reviewing many of the posts here are my comments. First, the company was sold a while back and is in the hands of some great people in Minnesota. I purchased mine from the previous owners. I was working on an issue and contacted the new owner (Tim) and he was 100% helpful. The previous people were great too. Everything worked as it should from the first time the power was applied. There were a couple of minor issues encountered that are discussed below.
Someone mentioned the weight difference. I think in the overall scheme it may add a little but so does failing to go to the bathroom before flying!!!
It will handle ANY system. As far as upgrading, it is as simple as adding the appropriate cable. There may be a chance you would have to send in the hub, but not sure. How many people change out their panel anyway. If you needed to can the who thing, this would be the cheapest thing to replace anyway.
You get the complete wiring diagram and specific "pin outs" for each cable. Not being familiar with this aspect of building, I found the diagrams and pinouts easy to read.
I mounted the Hub just behind the panel (tip up) on the right side. It is 100% accessible and looks very neat with the cables tied together and running to the avionics. All of the cables have the computer look with sealed connectors at each end. (except the audio panel at the avionics end)
I figure I added about $400 to the overall cost of the wiring with the system. The $400 was well worth the reduction of the BS factor on the install. The install is quite simple with biggest issue being the audio panel with lots of loose wires to find their homes.
I have the Pro G hub with the following equipment integrated with the hub.
Garmin 340 audio panel
Garmin 430 GPS Nav/Comm
Garmin SL40
Garmin 330 Mode S transponder
Garmin 106A CDI
Trutrak Digiflight II VSGV auto pilot
ACK encoder
The only issues I had with the purchase was not know what the full capabilities of the avionics I selected. As an example, I did not know that I needed 4 unswitched audios for various components. The old Approach Systems apparently did not either and didn't wire for these. With the guidance of Approach Systems I was able to pin out a few more wires. Also the Garmin 330 Mode S transponder has Density Altitude capability if wired for a temperature probe. I did not know this. Again I wired a couple of wires and it was done.
I spoke with the new owners about this. I recommended that they conference with customers as to their equipment and the capabilities so everything is wired as desired and the full capabilities are experienced. Tim related they would do that. I should also point out that their knowledge of individual pieces of avionics is exceptional. Since they are an avionics shop the knowledge base is excellent.
In summary, if you are concerned about your ability to wire your panel, simple or complex, do not hesitate use the Approach Systems product. Despite the nominal extra cost you will reduce your wiring time 10 fold with a system that works as it is supposed to.
Sorry for the length but I wanted to clear up some of the misconceptions reported.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
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fstringham
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: Pro G hub |
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Darwin
Thanks for the info....especially knowing it is real world stuff.
I think I could wire up the various cables....but why......at least for me
this is one area where i will error on the side of an expert.
I talked with Tim yesterday and he is a stand up guy. I will proceed with
the hub / cable system they provide and thank you and the others that have
shed some light on my lack of knowledge.
Frank (at) SGU RV7A "NDY"
Quote: | From: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn(at)cox.net>
Reply-To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
To: <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Pro G hub
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:59:32 -0700
As typical of many discussions people throw out comments without specific
experience with the product. After reviewing many of the posts here are my
comments. First, the company was sold a while back and is in the hands of
some great people in Minnesota. I purchased mine from the previous owners.
I was working on an issue and contacted the new owner (Tim) and he was 100%
helpful. The previous people were great too. Everything worked as it should
from the first time the power was applied. There were a couple of minor
issues encountered that are discussed below.
Someone mentioned the weight difference. I think in the overall scheme it
may add a little but so does failing to go to the bathroom before flying!!!
It will handle ANY system. As far as upgrading, it is as simple as adding
the appropriate cable. There may be a chance you would have to send in the
hub, but not sure. How many people change out their panel anyway. If you
needed to can the who thing, this would be the cheapest thing to replace
anyway.
You get the complete wiring diagram and specific "pin outs" for each cable.
Not being familiar with this aspect of building, I found the diagrams and
pinouts easy to read.
I mounted the Hub just behind the panel (tip up) on the right side. It is
100% accessible and looks very neat with the cables tied together and
running to the avionics. All of the cables have the computer look with
sealed connectors at each end. (except the audio panel at the avionics end)
I figure I added about $400 to the overall cost of the wiring with the
system. The $400 was well worth the reduction of the BS factor on the
install. The install is quite simple with biggest issue being the audio
panel with lots of loose wires to find their homes.
I have the Pro G hub with the following equipment integrated with the hub.
Garmin 340 audio panel
Garmin 430 GPS Nav/Comm
Garmin SL40
Garmin 330 Mode S transponder
Garmin 106A CDI
Trutrak Digiflight II VSGV auto pilot
ACK encoder
The only issues I had with the purchase was not know what the full
capabilities of the avionics I selected. As an example, I did not know that
I needed 4 unswitched audios for various components. The old Approach
Systems apparently did not either and didn't wire for these. With the
guidance of Approach Systems I was able to pin out a few more wires. Also
the Garmin 330 Mode S transponder has Density Altitude capability if wired
for a temperature probe. I did not know this. Again I wired a couple of
wires and it was done.
I spoke with the new owners about this. I recommended that they conference
with customers as to their equipment and the capabilities so everything is
wired as desired and the full capabilities are experienced. Tim related
they would do that. I should also point out that their knowledge of
individual pieces of avionics is exceptional. Since they are an avionics
shop the knowledge base is excellent.
In summary, if you are concerned about your ability to wire your panel,
simple or complex, do not hesitate use the Approach Systems product.
Despite the nominal extra cost you will reduce your wiring time 10 fold
with a system that works as it is supposed to.
Sorry for the length but I wanted to clear up some of the misconceptions
reported.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: Pro G Hub |
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I bought a partially completed Lancair kit and the Pro-G Hub and several
cables came with the kit. I have since decided not to use it. It has
never been installed. I can make someone a great deal if they are
interested.
E-mail me off list and I will give you the details of which cables I
have, etc.
Bill B
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