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Jerry Cochran

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Posts: 111
Location: Wilsonville, OR

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: Phase One Radius

Since I heard this list needs something to noodle about, here's one... Can  anyone tell me why it is important to limit the radius one can fly off phase one  to 50 miles, or any number of miles at all? I'm in the midst of this exercise  and wonder what safety issue dictates this... I would rather see the rules  reflect that the pilot has an understanding of simply staying away from  populated areas, have a place to set down, etc., whether it's 50 miles out or  200... Sure would make it more interesting...

  

 Maybe this is a holdover of the 1920's or sumpin'? 

  

 Just noodling,

 Jerry Cochran

 RV-6a 6 hrs.



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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Phase One Radius

Jerry2DT(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   Since I heard this list needs something to noodle about, here's one... 

 Can anyone tell me why it is important to limit the radius one can fly 

 off phase one to 50 miles, or any number of miles at all? I'm in the 

 midst of this exercise and wonder what safety issue dictates this... I 

 would rather see the rules reflect that the pilot has an understanding 

 of simply staying away from populated areas, have a place to set down, 

 etc., whether it's 50 miles out or 200... Sure would make it more 

 interesting...

  

 Maybe this is a holdover of the 1920's or sumpin'?

  

 Just noodling,

 Jerry Cochran

 RV-6a 6 hrs.

Politics, just like the rule that you can't fly over densely populated 
	


areas, except for t/o & landing (except when a Class B airspace 

controller routes you directly over the city when you contact him/her on 

a cross country flight).



'Rules' like that keep the 99.9% of the population who don't fly 

experimentals from complaining too much that we get to play with neat 

toys. Many FSDO's will give much larger areas if you ask & draw limit 

lines that keep you away from major cities & busy airspace.



Having said that, the FSDO can limit you to even less area if it sees 

fit. There's a local legend around here of a guy who got a test area 

that kept him within sight of the runway. The inspector told him that 

while he couldn't keep the guy from flying his creation, he *could* keep 

the wreckage easy to find.



Charlie

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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Phase One Radius

Some areas in Colorado are basically the entire state east of the 

Rockies.  50 nm would be boring and only allow three airports to visit.



Ron

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chasb(at)satx.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: Phase one Radius

One of our local builders recently got his inspection and  

Airworthiness Certificate. He presented the DAR with his desired  

Phase One area laid out on a sectional. It was a huge area covering  

most of south central Texas. His map had well delineated borders and  

excluded populated areas and Class B airspace, though it did  

completely surround some of the excluded areas. He specifically  

included some distant airports that had avionics shops, painting  

facilities, etc., and other RV builder's facilities. He highlighted  

emergency fields and airports for practice touch and goes and  

instrument approaches.  The DAR said his requested area was something  

new and different and that he had obviously put some thought into it.  

The area was approved it without any restrictions.



Charlie Brame

RV-6A  N11CB

San Amntonio



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		   Time: 12:22:18 PM PST US

 From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com

 Subject: Phase One Radius



 Since I heard this list needs something to noodle about, here's  

 one... Can

 anyone tell me why it is important to limit the radius one can fly  

 off phase

 one  to 50 miles, or any number of miles at all? I'm in the midst  

 of this

 exercise  and wonder what safety issue dictates this... I would  

 rather see the

 rules

  reflect that the pilot has an understanding of simply staying away  

 from

 populated areas, have a place to set down, etc., whether it's 50  

 miles out or



 200... Sure would make it more interesting...



 Maybe this is a holdover of the 1920's or sumpin'?



 Just noodling,

 Jerry Cochran

 RV-6a 6 hrs.

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