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jerryhey(at)earthlink.net
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 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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This is my first post on this list and I have only seen the 701 in
photos. It seems to be a wonderful short field airplane which is good
because I have a very short field that I want to fly out of. The
runway is 800 feet long. Is it realistic to expect to operate off
this runway? I might add that the approaches are excellent from one
direction but not so good from the other where I have to come in
over a building which itself is setting on ground higher than the
runway, so I would be high (30ft) over the fence.
Unless I hear something to change my mind, I am going to buy 701
plans at S n F. Greetings to all. Jerry
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rpf(at)wi.rr.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Jerry, with practice you should have no problems with a 701. I use to fly a
Skyranger out of a 850 foot strip (with 25ft trees at both ends) with no
problem.
Randy
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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Jerry,
With good non obstructed approach you shouldn't have a problem, of course that is with lots of practice at a larger airport first. I wouldn't do my fly off hours at home. I have two runways, one is 1300 ft with 150 ft high power lines about 400' from the approach end and fairly tall trees at the other end, and another one that is about 800 ft with a lower power line about 30 ft high. If the wind is calm I will land on the shorter runway and stop well within 600 ft.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/CH701/912ULS/102hrs
In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:32:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jerryhey(at)earthlink.net writes:
| Quote: | This is my first post on this list and I have only seen the 701 in
photos. It seems to be a wonderful short field airplane which is good
because I have a very short field that I want to fly out of. The
runway is 800 feet long. Is it realistic to expect to operate off
this runway? I might add that the approaches are excellent from one
direction but not so good from the other where I have to come in
over a building which itself is setting on ground higher than the
runway, so I would be high (30ft) over the fence.
Unless I hear something to change my mind, I am going to buy 701
plans at S n F. Greetings to all. Jerry
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ricklach
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Short field and CH 701 |
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Jerry you should have no problem. I fly my 701 with a 100HP Rotax out of an 800 FT strip at 6500 in the Southern Sierra Mountains of California. Take offs are the most fun. I have 1300 Ft from where I start to the first 75FT pine tree and I usually get about 75FT of clearance. Landings are interesting also, you come in over the pines throttle back and sink like a rock. Then just before touch down add a little throttle and smooth it out to a soft touch down. It only takes around 175FT to stop in a very relaxed manner. So far I’ve never gone past the half way point. I do not know of many airplanes with that kind of performance. Good luck on you future project.
Rick
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jerryhey(at)earthlink.net
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Thanks, Certainly, I will practice at a local airport first. I don't have a plane now so I will be very rusty by the time this one is built. I was just looking at the "bad" approach on my purposed runway and with a little "S" curve on final I can get the wheels down very near the beginning of the runway, I would say about 100 ft in. Does the 701 really stall at 28 kts (or mph?) when light. That seems impossible. My last plane was a Tailwind that would drop like a set of keys below 80 mph. How slow is slow flight? I am really looking forward to Sun N Fun to see the plane and meet some of you all. Jerry
On Apr 10, 2007, at 9:49 PM, NYTerminat(at)aol.com (NYTerminat(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote] Jerry,
With good non obstructed approach you shouldn't have a problem, of course that is with lots of practice at a larger airport first. I wouldn't do my fly off hours at home. I have two runways, one is 1300 ft with 150 ft high power lines about 400' from the approach end and fairly tall trees at the other end, and another one that is about 800 ft with a lower power line about 30 ft high. If the wind is calm I will land on the shorter runway and stop well within 600 ft.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/CH701/912ULS/102hrs
In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:32:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jerryhey(at)earthlink.net (jerryhey(at)earthlink.net) writes:
| Quote: | This is my first post on this list and I have only seen the 701 in
photos. It seems to be a wonderful short field airplane which is good
because I have a very short field that I want to fly out of. The
runway is 800 feet long. Is it realistic to expect to operate off
this runway? I might add that the approaches are excellent from one
direction but not so good from the other where I have to come in
over a building which itself is setting on ground higher than the
runway, so I would be high (30ft) over the fence.
Unless I hear something to change my mind, I am going to buy 701
plans at S n F. Greetings to all. Jerry
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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Stalls in the low 30's mph, Drops like a rock when you cut the power at slow speed, easily arrested with a little power. I won't make it to Sun N Fun this year, I have a poorly planned vacation to Mexico that was planned last year.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 4/10/2007 10:34:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jerryhey(at)earthlink.net writes:
| Quote: | Thanks, Certainly, I will practice at a local airport first. I don't have a plane now so I will be very rusty by the time this one is built. I was just looking at the "bad" approach on my purposed runway and with a little "S" curve on final I can get the wheels down very near the beginning of the runway, I would say about 100 ft in. Does the 701 really stall at 28 kts (or mph?) when light. That seems impossible. My last plane was a Tailwind that would drop like a set of keys below 80 mph. How slow is slow flight? I am really looking forward to Sun N Fun to see the plane and meet some of you all. Jerry
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Jerry:
I have a 1800` open on both ends, I never fly final slower than 50 mph or 701 drops like a rock resulting in a hard landing. Once on the ground cut power apply brakes 701 will stop ground roll. With 912uls The take off is fullpower off the ground at 28mph continue climb at 60mph pull power to maintain 60mph (1000fp).Fun! 60 Is best glide.
Regards,
Ken
Missouri
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: Short field and CH 701 |
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Thanks for the info. As I understand it you are carrying some power all the way to touch down or just until the flair?
Jerry (Mentally flying my yet to built airplane unto my yet to be built strip)
On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Ken and Cathy Buchmann wrote:
[quote]Jerry:
I have a 1800` open on both ends, I never fly final slower than 50 mph or 701 drops like a rock resulting in a hard landing. Once on the ground cut power apply brakes 701 will stop ground roll. With 912uls The take off is fullpower off the ground at 28mph continue climb at 60mph pull power to maintain 60mph (1000fp).Fun! 60 Is best glide.
Regards,
Ken
Missouri
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billmileski
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Short field and CH 701 |
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| Quote: | Thanks for the info.� As I understand it you are carrying some power all the way to touch down or �just until the flair?� �
� �Jerry��(Mentally flying my yet to built airplane unto my yet to be built strip)
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I come in at idle regularly, and often all the way to touchdown. In this approach, you have to have pretty good timing because the speed bleeds very quickly. With a passenger and lots of fuel, extra concentration is necessary. I also will relax sometimes by approaching with some power, and keeping it in until after the flare and the plane's rate of descent is arrested. I suspect that my rather aft CG helps maintain my plane's elevator authority a little longer than the same plane with a forward CG.
I have also found operation out of an 800 foot strip to be well within the plane's capabilities, and this included 40ft+ trees at the threshold of one direction.
Bill Mileski
Ledyard, CT
701 912S 85hrs
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