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912 Voltage Regulator Values

 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: 912 Voltage Regulator Values Reply with quote

Got 912 regulator questions, after lots of trouble shooting of the electrics, I think I have narrowed it down to regulator not functioning correctly. But first some questions...

1. What is the a/c voltage input to the the regulator supposed to be? I am showing 15.4

2. What is the d/c output voltage supposed to be? I am showing voltage of 12.85 (battery voltage I believe)? My thinking is that it should be 14.5 or some where in that neighborhood.

Thanks,

Steve

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: 912 Voltage Regulator Values Reply with quote

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The voltage will depend very much on how much load the regulator puts on the generator output. It is likely that the generator will provide all or nothing as it is just a collection of coils. The fact that you are reading a voltage at the input of the regulator infers that the problem is downstream of the generator.



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What is the d/c output voltage supposed to be? I am showing voltage of 12.85 (battery voltage I believe)? My thinking is that it should be 14.5 or some where in that neighborhood.<

Once you have a voltage over 13 volts it is pretty certain that the battery is receiving charge. An ammeter as well as a voltmeter helps to show what is happening. Mine shows about 13.8 volts when on charge. From the sound of it your regulator is probably at fault.

There are two ways to improve regulator reliability:
  1. Mount it in an area where it is kept relatively cool and free of vibration. On top of the footwell is the usual choice. Added ram air directed at the regulator is a good idea particularly with Classic Europas. The under cowl temperatures with the Classic tend to be higher as the exhaust air from the radiators routes through the engine bay. I use the NACA duct on the lower starboard side of the cowl to provide ram air for cooling for the fuel pipes using 2 inch flexible pipe. The pipe outlet points at the regulator ensuring it receives a cool air supply.
  2. Limit your standing load to no more than 11 amps. The Europa is a VFR aircraft so even with a fairly comprehensive panel I find this quite easy to achieve. It becomes more of a problem if you include landing or navigation lights.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: 912 Voltage Regulator Values Reply with quote

Steve Crimm a écrit :
Quote:
Got 912 regulator questions, after lots of trouble shooting of the
electrics, I think I have narrowed it down to regulator not
functioning correctly. But first some questions...

1. What is the a/c voltage input to the the regulator supposed to
be? I am showing 15.4

At max rev, the PM alternator can generate as high as 80-100 V. The
voltage is far from being a sine wave.

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2. What is the d/c output voltage supposed to be? I am showing
voltage of 12.85 (battery voltage I believe)? My thinking is that it
should be 14.5 or some where in that neighborhood.

The Rotax regulator puts out around 13.8 V when not too heavily loaded.
12.85 V is the voltage of a fully charged battery.
Did you check the connection of the regulator case to ground, with a
wire capable of at least 15-20 amps ?
Some info at
http://contrails.free.fr/elec_ducati_en.php

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Gilles
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