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 Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/845-full.html#194933
Orenda Rises Again
A Midland, Texas, company has received FAA approval to take over the engine type certificate for the Orenda OE600A, a Canadian-developed, 600-hp V-8 based on a big-block Chevy engine. The granting of the type certificate transfer from the former Canadian owners allows Trace Engines to begin shipping engines, including the 10 finished mills it inherited in the takeover of the project. Two engines were shipped, ironically, to Canada last week and are expected to be flying by the end of the month. The Texas plant won’t likely build its first engine until September. "Because this is a start-up, we have the opportunity to do things right the first time," spokesman Craig Hoover told the Midland Reporter-Telegram. "We have an active research and development program. There are things we want to improve on the engines even before we begin production." The big recips are aimed at replacing far more expensive small turboprops on a variety of light and business aircraft. They were developed about 20 years ago in Canada, but despite gaining certification were not widely installed. Hoover said his company aims to change that and he expects a lot of foreign orders. There are 12 people working at Trace now, but plans are to increase that tenfold and incorporate a college training program into the factory. [quote][b]
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Great, but will it be offered for Commanders???
David Owens
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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Sure be nice if someone offered an affordable replacement for the GO-480/GSO480 engines. Ideally that eat Jet-A. Avgas around here is above $4/gal, Jet-A about $3.
Bruce
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Great, but will it be offered for Commanders???
David Owens
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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After reading the thread about those heavy geared engines, this should really be a nice revival.
Nico
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http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/845-full.html#194933
Orenda Rises Again
A Midland, Texas, company has received FAA approval to take over the engine type certificate for the Orenda OE600A, a Canadian-developed, 600-hp V-8 based on a big-block Chevy engine. The granting of the type certificate transfer from the former Canadian owners allows Trace Engines to begin shipping engines, including the 10 finished mills it inherited in the takeover of the project. Two engines were shipped, ironically, to Canada last week and are expected to be flying by the end of the month. The Texas plant won’t likely build its first engine until September. "Because this is a start-up, we have the opportunity to do things right the first time," spokesman Craig Hoover told the Midland Reporter-Telegram. "We have an active research and development program. There are things we want to improve on the engines even before we begin production." The big recips are aimed at replacing far more expensive small turboprops on a variety of light and business aircraft. They were developed about 20 years ago in Canada, but despite gaining certification were not widely installed. Hoover said his company aims to change that and he expects a lot of foreign orders. There are 12 people working at Trace now, but plans are to increase that tenfold and incorporate a college training program into the factory. | Quote: | | http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List |
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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Folks,
At the risk of pouring cold water on a good news story, there were some good engineering reasons why the Orenda program went very quiet.
I really hope the new Type Certificate holders overcome the problems.
Last time I noticed, the only Orenda powered Commander was still being advertised for sale as an Experimental aircraft, the STC was presumably never completed.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
At 05:18 AM 17/04/2007, you wrote:
[quote] After reading the thread about those heavy geared engines, this should really be a nice revival.
Nico
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Deneal Schilmeister
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:31 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Orenda Rises Again
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/845-full.html#194933
Orenda Rises Again
A Midland, Texas, company has received FAA approval to take over the engine type certificate for the Orenda OE600A, a Canadian-developed, 600-hp V-8 based on a big-block Chevy engine. The granting of the type certificate transfer from the former Canadian owners allows Trace Engines to begin shipping engines, including the 10 finished mills it inherited in the takeover of the project. Two engines were shipped, ironically, to Canada last week and are expected to be flying by the end of the month. The Texas plant won’t likely build its first engine until September. "Because this is a start-up, we have the opportunity to do things right the first time," spokesman Craig Hoover told the Midland Reporter-Telegram. "We have an active research and development program. There are things we want to improve on the engines even before we begin production." The big recips are aimed at replacing far more expensive small turboprops on a variety of light and business aircraft. They were developed about 20 years ago in Canada, but despite gaining certification were not widely installed. Hoover said his company aims to change that and he expects a lot of foreign orders. There are 12 people working at Trace now, but plans are to increase that tenfold and incorporate a college training program into the factory.
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Bill-
As a 685 owner- the Orenda project has obviously come across various google searches I've made... I got the impression from reading around the various pieces on the internet that the project died on account of funding issues...
Can you offer any insight on what the engineering reasons were?
Robert S. Randazzo
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From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of W J R HAMILTON
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 19:49
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Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
Folks,
At the risk of pouring cold water on a good news story, there were some good engineering reasons why the Orenda program went very quiet.
I really hope the new Type Certificate holders overcome the problems.
Last time I noticed, the only Orenda powered Commander was still being advertised for sale as an Experimental aircraft, the STC was presumably never completed.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
At 05:18 AM 17/04/2007, you wrote:
| Quote: | After reading the thread about those heavy geared engines, this should really be a nice revival.
Nico
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Deneal Schilmeister
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:31 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Orenda Rises Again
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/845-full.html#194933
Orenda Rises Again
A Midland, Texas, company has received FAA approval to take over the engine type certificate for the Orenda OE600A, a Canadian-developed, 600-hp V-8 based on a big-block Chevy engine. The granting of the type certificate transfer from the former Canadian owners allows Trace Engines to begin shipping engines, including the 10 finished mills it inherited in the takeover of the project. Two engines were shipped, ironically, to Canada last week and are expected to be flying by the end of the month. The Texas plant wont likely build its first engine until September. "Because this is a start-up, we have the opportunity to do things right the first time," spokesman Craig Hoover told the Midland Reporter-Telegram. "We have an active research and development program. There are things we want to improve on the engines even before we begin production." The big recips are aimed at replacing far more expensive small turboprops on a variety of light and business aircraft. They were developed about 20 years ago in Canada, but despite gaining certification were not widely installed. Hoover said his company aims to change that and he expects a lot of foreign orders. There are 12 people working at Trace now, but plans are to increase that tenfold and incorporate a college training program into the factory.
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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What model commander was it on???
David Owens
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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Hi David,
The Orenda engine was flown on a Model 685.
If you go to ......
http://www.mrrpm.com/
...... there is a video you can see of it in action!
Best Regards,
Barry
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
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N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
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AC-500A-Colemill
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Ohhhhh, OK... That would still be cool, so I guess were looking at years down the road... The engines are new, so mabey they can go that long, and then ask again. 
David Owens
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moe(at)rosspistons.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Bruce,
Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up.
I don’t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90 degree v6’s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a V were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something similar to the GM exercise.
But that is all speculation.
Bruce
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
Bruce,
Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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I saw Thielert is planning a 350 hp diesel engine. That would be something cool for the 500 series, don’t you think?
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/2006/apr/diesel_skylane.html
http://www.aflyer.com/atlantic_flyer.year/atlantic_flyer.oct%2006/OCTpdf/page11.pdf
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:24 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up.
I don’t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90 degree v6’s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a V were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something similar to the GM exercise.
But that is all speculation.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe - Ross Racing Pistons
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
Bruce,
Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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It seems awfully heavy, about 660 lb all up. I don’t know if this includes the prop, but if it does, the empty weight gain on a 500 or 560 would be about 300-400lb. With the fuel savings it probably would be about a 100-200lb reduction in payload.
It would scream, though. >2000 fpm until you passed out from the bends.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:12 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
I saw Thielert is planning a 350 hp diesel engine. That would be something cool for the 500 series, don’t you think?
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/2006/apr/diesel_skylane.html
http://www.aflyer.com/atlantic_flyer.year/atlantic_flyer.oct%2006/OCTpdf/page11.pdf
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:24 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up.
I don’t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90 degree v6’s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a V were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something similar to the GM exercise.
But that is all speculation.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe - Ross Racing Pistons
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
Bruce,
Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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steve2(at)sover.net
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Exactly. I've been thinking the Thielert turbo-diesel in the 500 series would be a great match. The right power, the right weight, the right fuel, and its blown to boot.
(Too bad it can't possibly sound as good as a big block chevy.)
With engines like the Thielert up and coming, and small turbines in development, I wonder how far the Orenda can get?
Hard to imagine a realistic scenario that has I0-540 owners modifying airframes to put in a radically different gas fueled powerplant to replace something that is so good at what it does year after year.
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tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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According to Lycoming's web site a tsio-540 J is 550 lbs with out prop. 660 all up with prop sounds about right.
http://www.centurion-engines.com/
Cirrus and Diamond have announced the 400 Centurion engine will be in their aircraft factory new.
Look to Cessna for the next announcement in the C206 and their new aircraft.
Tylor Hall
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It seems awfully heavy, about 660 lb all up. I don’t know if this includes the prop, but if it does, the empty weight gain on a 500 or 560 would be about 300-400lb. With the fuel savings it probably would be about a 100-200lb reduction in payload.
It would scream, though. >2000 fpm until you passed out from the bends.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of nico cssSent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:12 AMTo: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
I saw Thielert is planning a 350 hp diesel engine. That would be something cool for the 500 series, don’t you think?
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/2006/apr/diesel_skylane.html
http://www.aflyer.com/atlantic_flyer.year/atlantic_flyer.oct%2006/OCTpdf/page11.pdf
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bruce CampbellSent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:24 AMTo: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up.
I don’t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90 degree v6’s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a V were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something similar to the GM exercise.
But that is all speculation.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Moe - Ross Racing PistonsSent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AMTo: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
Bruce,
Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
Moe
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From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bruce CampbellSent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AMTo: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: RE: Orenda Rises Again
I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the 8 cylinder was making money.
Bruce
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of David OwensSent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AMTo: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Orenda Rises Again
I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
David OwensAerial ViewpointN14AVAC-500A-Colemill
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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I think the x-tra hp should (mabey) make up for the weight gain... with a fresh W&B of course
David Owens
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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: Orenda Rises Again |
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Yea, for us normally aspirated 300HP Continentals or Lycs, it would be a tremendous improvment, breathing much needed life back into the airframe, as well as the interest in Commanders overall...
David Owens
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