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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

I'm a longtime lurker, this is my first post. I would like to put my KF2 in the garage for long term storage, two or three months. It won't fit, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to remove the wings. Are there any special tricks to removing the wings, or is it just finding enough people to hold it up while I remove the bolts.

Jim
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

Jim,

I think you have a handle on it already from your post. Disconnecting the
fuel lines and electrical if any would be the first step. The removal
would be essentially the reverse of the initial wing installation. As I
recall, I made a tee support for the outboard end so the bolt holes would
remain concentric. Another suggestion would be to remove the bolts one at a
time and replace them with a pin punch of smaller diameter so the guys
lifting wouldn't have to lift for so long a time. The pin punches could be
lifted out quickly,just at the time of removal.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

At 08:39 PM 4/20/2007, you wrote:
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Are there any special tricks to removing the wings, or is it just
finding enough people to hold it up while I remove the bolts.

I used a 6' step ladder to support the outboard end. I then
disconnected the lower strut bolt and half pulled the upper spar
bolts. I then had someone hold the outboard end while I pulled the
spar bolts and we carried the wing, with strut, to a pair of waiting
padded sawhorses. I then disassembled the strut, first supporting the
free end of the strut from the ceiling. I was able to do most of the
work myself. My wife and I moved the wing, though she was a little
hard pressed at the outboard end. Obviously all fuel and electrical
lines should be disconnected, spooled, tie-wrapped, and free. If you
anticipate trouble with these have another person ready to free them.
The wing isn't heavy, but you won't want to be standing around all
day trying to do a military press with one hand while you sort things
out with the other.
Obviously you have to be careful what you grab and how you
support, as the skin is thin and the ribs are wood. And don't let the
tip move vertically with the spar pins fully in. Half in and the tip
can move a little vertically. Oh, and don't poke the fuselage skin
with the inboard end of the strut.
Guy Buchanan
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

Jim, one helper is enough and a must if you haven't installed or removed kitfox wings before. When you start pulling the wing attch bolts and pins a wing can swing back or foreward unexpectidly and you will be stuck there holding it untill someone comes along to help you. Or if you can yell loud enough for someone in the house to hear you.

It is easiest if you raise the tail to level the fuselage. Have your helper hold the wing tip. It is not heavy but a stick or board cut to the right length to support the tip helps a lot. Just make sure your helper knows to hold on to the wing tip and keep it in that position until you have all the bolts out and you have hold of the wing at the root then slide it away and off to the safe storage rack or whatever you will store the wing on.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

At 08:39 PM 4/20/2007, you wrote:
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Are there any special tricks to removing the wings, or is it just
finding enough people to hold it up while I remove the bolts.

I forgot to add, though someone else already did, that it's much
easier if you put the tail on a sawhorse first so the plane's level.

Sorry,
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

Not much rocket science here. Pulled the wings off of a Kitfox4. Just had to
remove fuel lines,elect. wires and such. First put a ladder or such to hold
the wings in somewhat a safe position. Then remove the jury strut, making
sure that fuel tanks are empty for weight. Then the bolts on the wing spar.
Done deal.
LeRoy


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

Hey Dacha,

I understand supporting the wing with a step ladder or anything
that will do the job, but removing the jury strut from the main strut,
what holds the main strut in place, a third person ?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

David,

You only have to remove the jury strut if you can't store the wings with the
lift struts etc. attached. For the two or three months you mention, it
would be nice to store them in one piece then the reattachment would be a
simple job. If you don't have the room to store them that way and have to
remove the lift struts, Make some sort of spacer that will give the
dimension between the lift strut attach bracket and the aft wing spar. Mark
them right and left side. This way when you reattach the jury struts you
can use the spacer to hold everything in allignment. I think I used a
couple of pieces of pvc pipe cut the right lengths.

Lowell

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Reply with quote

At 07:57 PM 4/23/2007, you wrote:
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I understand supporting the wing with a step ladder or anything
that will do the job, but removing the jury strut from the main strut,
what holds the main strut in place, a third person ?

I assume you meant to post this to the entire list, though the solicitation was personal. When I removed my wings I left the struts and jury struts on the wings when I removed them. Once I set the wing on saw-horses in the garage I supported the main strut from the rafters while I removed the jury, then removed the main strut. Installation was the reverse.


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