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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

hey all - 



just thought i'd drop a note to the group about the AF3500 that i'm using as a backup efis system/engine monitor.  i just picked it up from the ups depot (long story) and powered it up right in the car and played with it on the way home!  safely of course...  i could do this because i got the internal battery option.  i gotta say, this is one super cool unit.  i couldn't be happier.  it's got all the stuff you'd want, and more.  i'm particularly impressed with the weight and balance section of the unit, as i feel that this is an area that gets neglected by pilots.  this thing is fast and cool.  obviously i haven't flown with it yet, but i don't believe i'll be disappointed.  



just a note from a happy builder!



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LarryRosen

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!

From Sun-N-Fun



You should see the moving map functionality and the WSI weather integration.  It is turning into a very nice platform.  The screens on the AFS units are still better that the new and improve GRT units.



Larry

Enjoying the FL weather

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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

moving map and WSI on the AF3500?  now that would REALLY make me smile!  any more info on this?



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LarryRosen

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!

 	  CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote: 	
		  moving map and WSI on the AF3500?  now that would REALLY make me smile!  any more info on this?



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Today I took some photos of the AFS screen on the 3500 and the 3400 that show the map and weather.  They were working hard prior to SNF to get the software ready, so it is not yet ready for prime time.  But, soon, what ever that means.  No hardware upgrade required.  And if you get the Sport model (no AHRS) you can still get the map and weather.



And traffic from a 330.



I will post the photos when I get back home.  Probably Monday.



Larry

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jjessen

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Are you saying this has about the same functionality as an MX-20/200?   



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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Dosen't the MX-20 have a jep approach plate option. 



Correction it is XM weather on the ASF system.  



Another point, Although GRT had there new high res screens at the show, they stil show that same clunky graphics.  I don't know if they plan on updating the graphis, but I was not impressed with what they had at SNF.



Larry



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 Are you saying this has about the same functionality as an MX-20/200?   

 

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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

any pics from the booth at the show?  anyone?  i'm so excited about this i'm about to explode...

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Attached is a photo.

Hope the file attached is a good compromise between quality and bandwith.



Larry



Chris Johnston wrote:

[quote] any pics from the booth at the show?  anyone?  i'm so excited about this i'm about to explode...

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Larry, thanks for the post.



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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!

The map will be a $750 option for software, though. (No GPS included)

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ddddsp1(at)juno.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Kinda curious that no one has mentioned or discussed the WEIGHT of these units or the extra SPACE they take out of the panel vs comparable units.  I know the RV10 can haul a LOT of weight compared to other 4 place planes...................but why add weight (esp. unnecessary wt.) when it adds nothing or very little to the utility of the plane.    

Dean 40449 

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sean(at)stephensville.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

Huh?

Can you elaborate on your findings regarding this unit against the "comparable units"  including price?



-Sean #40303



On Apr 23, 2007, at 2:16 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com (ddddsp1(at)juno.com) wrote:

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Kinda curious that no one has mentioned or discussed the WEIGHT of these units or the extra SPACE they take out of the panel vs comparable units.  I know the RV10 can haul a LOT of weight compared to other 4 place planes...................but why add weight (esp. unnecessary wt.) when it adds nothing or very little to the utility of the plane.   

Dean 40449 

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greytex

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

I would like him to explain the last part of his post



..................but why add

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		  >weight (esp. unnecessary wt.) when it adds nothing or very little  to the 

>utility of the plane.


	


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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:30:41 -0500



Huh?



Can you elaborate on your findings regarding this unit against the  

"comparable units"  including price?



-Sean #40303



On Apr 23, 2007, at 2:16 AM, ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:



>Kinda curious that no one has mentioned or discussed the WEIGHT of  these 

>units or the extra SPACE they take out of the panel vs  comparable units.  

>I know the RV10 can haul a LOT of weight  compared to other 4 place 

>planes...................but why add  weight (esp. unnecessary wt.) when 

>it adds nothing or very little  to the utility of the plane.

>

>Dean 40449

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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

just wondering about this post a bit.  my thoughts?  well, i have the chelton 2 screen system, freeflight gps (possibly will be replaced) and the rest standard radios & transponder.  so when i thought about the engine monitor, i looked around, and decided on the AF3500.  it does a few things for me, besides being an engine monitor, that i feel add quite a bit to the plane.  first, it's got a full set of instruments.  airspeed, alt, AI, etc.  it's also got a display of the flap and trim settings.  it's also got checklists.  it's also got, a GRAPHIC WEIGHT AND BALANCE screen, where you just dial up the weights in the different stations and it calculates CG.  simple.  no calculator or book, and i can actually do weight and balance before a flight.  easily.  oh, and it's got an AOA display if you want.  oh, and an internal battery, in case something goes fizzle with the electrical system.  oh yea, and you can hook up a GPS or nav radio and navigate using it.  oh, and fly an ILS if you want.  hmmmm.  not to be difficult, but this particular unit, at least in my estimation, is pretty small and light for all the functionality it's giving you.  then you add moving map stuff.  sweet.  for my money and panel space, that's one highly functional piece of gear.  it kind of feels like cheating for me, because when i do an IPC in my 10, that's my backup instrumentation.  can you say situational awareness?  i think it's pretty neat, but i'm biased.  i think you'd be hard pressed to find a comparable unit with the same form factor in this case.  well, maybe you could get the smaller one 



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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: AF3500 whoopiee!

I think the AFS system is great, that's why I went with them. Rob has always been upgrading his products so the weather and moving map stuff comes as no surprise. Heres my panel with the two 3500 screens, 480/MX-20/SL-30/TT RV-10 AP/PMA-8000 plus the IFR backups assembled by Accuracy Avionics...If your considering an avionics company check them out, I highly recommend them.



Heres the link to a photo of my panel in their booth last week.



http://www.vansairforce.net/delete_eventually/DSCF0034.jpg

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