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Tommy Walker



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Location: Anniston, AL 36207
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Painting...Painting... Reply with quote
Hi Rog,
I’m not a painter so this is subject to review by those with actual experience.  I did the grunt work.
  1. Cleaned skins with Lacquer Thinner to remove sharpie marks, tape, etc.
  2. Washed wings, etc. with Liquid Dove dishwash soap
  3. Let wings dry (standing on edge so water drains).
  4. Washed wings with Alumiprep and rinsed well (3 parts water, 1 part Alumiprep).
  5. Washed wings with Alodine and rinsed well. (3 parts water, 1 part Alumiprep).
  6. Stood all surfaces on edge so they would drain well over several days.  Taped off areas that would not be painted.
  7. Took wings to paint shop.  Painter looked at wings and had me scuff them up with Scotchbright pads (green).
  8. I previously ordered 2 gallons arctic white Acrylic Enamel 2 gallons Gray Synthetic Primer along with reducer and hardener from Paint For Cars  (http://www.paintforcars.com)
  9. The painter sprayed primer while I held the parts to keep them from swinging.  (That was the biggest mistake, hanging the parts from the ceiling.  The lighter items had to be held to keep them at the right distance from the gun).
  10. Within one hour we started spraying the tack coat of Acrylic Enamel.  Followed that with a second coat.  Then the painter mixed ˝ enamel, ˝ reducer and sprayed a light coat.  That light coat sort of smoothed everything out.
  11. The painter said he could have done a better job with a base/clear coat paint like Imron, but I’m happy and the paint was much, much cheaper (let’s hope it’s durability is good).


Hope this helps,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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Tommy            Looks Good! I am nearly ready to paint my 701 and interested in knowing more.            Can you give details on what you used to prep and prime?            Appreciate it            Roger


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Painting...Painting... Reply with quote
Tommy

Appreciate the detail. Think I am going to follow your lead

Thanks

Roger

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Hi Rog,
I’m not a painter so this is subject to review by those with actual experience. I did the grunt work.
  1. Cleaned skins with Lacquer Thinner to remove sharpie marks, tape, etc.
  2. Washed wings, etc. with Liquid Dove dishwash soap
  3. Let wings dry (standing on edge so water drains).
  4. Washed wings with Alumiprep and rinsed well (3 parts water, 1 part Alumiprep).
  5. Washed wings with Alodine and rinsed well. (3 parts water, 1 part Alumiprep).
  6. Stood all surfaces on edge so they would drain well over several days. Taped off areas that would not be painted.
  7. Took wings to paint shop. Painter looked at wings and had me scuff them up with Scotchbright pads (green).
  8. I previously ordered 2 gallons arctic white Acrylic Enamel 2 gallons Gray Synthetic Primer along with reducer and hardener from Paint For Cars (http://www.paintforcars.com)
  9. The painter sprayed primer while I held the parts to keep them from swinging. (That was the biggest mistake, hanging the parts from the ceiling. The lighter items had to be held to keep them at the right distance from the gun).
  10. Within one hour we started spraying the tack coat of Acrylic Enamel. Followed that with a second coat. Then the painter mixed ˝ enamel, ˝ reducer and sprayed a light coat. That light coat sort of smoothed everything out.
  11. The painter said he could have done a better job with a base/clear coat paint like Imron, but I’m happy and the paint was much, much cheaper (let’s hope it’s durability is good).


Hope this helps,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Painting...Painting... Reply with quote
I'm not a painter either, but here are a couple of tips that may save a bit of work.
1. You can probably skip the Lacquer thinner cleaning on aluminum surfaces. I did the same initially, but then discovered that the sharpie marks are removed completely by the alumiprep/scotchbrite. One less step and less chemicals to deal with.

2. Use the scotchbrite pads when cleaning with dishwashing soap and alumiprep. It will clean up faster and scuff up the surface nicely. You won't need the additional step of going back and scuffing up the surface. I won't get into what color of scotchbrite to use.

3. An engine hoist makes a great mobile, adjustable hanger for the parts for cleaning, drying, and painting. Parts will still swing around a bit, but you can keep the lines short to minimize movement and adjust the height of the boom to put the part where you want it.

That's the extent of my knowledge for what it is worth.

Steve Adams
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Painting...Painting... Reply with quote
Steve,

Those are good tips. I wish I had tried the alumaprep against the sharpie, tape residue first. And using a scotchbrite pad with the alumaprep would have been smart. My thinking was that the alumaprep etch would be enough etching of the skins. The painter knew better though.

Thanks,

Tommy Walker in Alabama

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"... 1. You can probably skip the Lacquer thinner cleaning on aluminum surfaces. I did
the same initially, but then discovered that the sharpie marks are removed
completely by the alumiprep/scotchbrite. One less step and less chemicals to deal
with.

2. Use the scotchbrite pads when cleaning with dishwashing soap and alumiprep.
It will clean up faster and scuff up the surface nicely. You won't need the additional
step of going back and scuffing up the surface. I won't get into what
color of scotchbrite to use.

3. An engine hoist makes a great mobile, adjustable hanger for the parts for cleaning,
drying, and painting. Parts will still swing around a bit, but you can
keep the lines short to minimize movement and adjust the height of the boom to
put the part where you want it.

  Steve Adams"

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