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chris Sinfield
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 Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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Hi Gang
I am using the latest plans 03/06 and have a Q. On page 6-B-2 bottom LH coner , it shows a lower rudder hinge. Ths hing USED to have 2 3/16" bolts 2 A5 rivets and a tiedown bolt on it with a row of 4 X A5 rivets behind. (older plans) on my plans it shows the rivets next to the tiedown bolt as being replaced bu 2 more 3/16" bolts , but the top RH corner of that Hinge picture still shows 6 X A5 with only 4 ++++.
Should there be 6 A5 rivets in the back row or 4??? is the 6 a mistake? as the 2 A5 rivets in the next row are now bolts??
Chris
Down Under..
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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Chris,
My plans (dated 08/05) show the 4 AN3-5A bolts plus the tie-down ring in the aft row and 4 + marks for rivets in the forward row; but a note that says "six rivets A5", pointing to the forward row. I just looked at mine and I have 6 rivets.
Somewhere in the Zenith documents, they tell you NOT to count + marks for rivets and to go with what is called out. I guess this is an example of what they were talking about.
Jay in Dallas
"chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield(at)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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Hi Gang
I am using the latest plans 03/06 and have a Q. On page 6-B-2 bottom LH coner , it shows a lower rudder hinge. Ths hing USED to have 2 3/16" bolts 2 A5 rivets and a tiedown bolt on it with a row of 4 X A5 rivets behind. (older plans) on my plans it shows the rivets next to the tiedown bolt as being replaced bu 2 more 3/16" bolts , but the top RH corner of that Hinge picture still shows 6 X A5 with only 4 ++++.
Should there be 6 A5 rivets in the back row or 4??? is the 6 a mistake? as the 2 A5 rivets in the next row are now bolts??
Chris
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wa7dvd
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
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Location: Salt Lake City, Ut
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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Should there be 6 A5 rivets in the back row or 4??? is the 6 a mistake? as the 2 A5 rivets in the next row are now bolts??
I think the reference to 6 A5 rivets is a carry over from earlier sets of plans. I have three versions and it is there in the all three. I believe it is counting 2 in one row (now replaced with AN-3 bolts) and 4 in the other row. The construction photos in the guide clearly show four rivets in the second row of the finished aircraft.
I hope in only needs four on the back row because that is how mine is built.
BK Johnson
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chris Sinfield
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment on XL |
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Hi Gang
Got up in the middle of the night down here and rang Zenith about the wording of the 6 holes. Yes it is a mistake on the plans and there should only be 4 rivet holes in the second row behind the tiedown point.
The 6 will be replaced with 4 on the next plans update.
Chris
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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MHerder
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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OK so assuming that the prints are incorrect on the number of A5 rivets it says 6, someone has confirmed with Zenith that the correct # is 4, is the number of bolts still 4 as indicated in the drawings? Two are shown in the manual.... Yes, I understand the drawings take priority over the manual and not to count the x's for rivets. Anybody mind taking a look at their QB kit? How is Zenith installing them these days?
Thanks,
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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Take a look at these shots of my QBK.
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MHerder
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Bottom Rudder Bracket attachment |
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Thank you Chris, I appreciate your time spent taking your pictures.
I have been building for a few months now, everyone I've come across has been so helpful. I appreciate all of you out there who are willing to take some time to help others out. I wonder what it would be like if I wasn't building a Zenith? Without so many helpful folks I would still have a pile of aluminum in my garage. Now I have a pile of aluminum that is beginning to resemble a plane! I had a question that I wrote to Zenith the other day, Sebastian replied via email in less than 30 minutes! I couldn't believe it.
Though I am new to the list, I look forward to offering my experience and advice as I progress. At this point I only feel qualified to instruct others on the techniques of drilling out and replacing rivets  .
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