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sam(at)fr8dog.net
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: Flaps

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: Flaps

I am using the one from Vans.  But I am not flying yet.  

     

Rene' Felker  

N423CF  

40322  

801-721-6080  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:39 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Flaps  

  

   

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: Flaps

There are some who are doing other various things, but, the

average is to just buy that system and the installation is

pretty straightforward and simple.  I haven't really found

the need for any more than the flap positions that are provided

by using that system.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Sam Marlow wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just 

 wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the 

 flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring

 

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: Flaps

Here are your main two options:  

   

http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm  

   

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps  

   

I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come up with your own position sensor for theirs.  Most people seem to be using a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.  

   

http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Flaps  

  

  

   

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring  [quote]  ;         - The RV10-List Email Forarch & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,[/b]_;  --> http://www.matronics.bsp;         - NEW MATRONICS WEB FO; http://forums.matronics.com</================== [b]

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: Flaps

The FPS is fantastic.  No indicator needed.  Just hit the button and let them go to the next position.  It’s good to have a switch with momentary down but not momentary up, so when you want to put them up you just flip the switch up and they go all the way up.  If you have the switch on your stick grip, it is also nice to have your thumb hit the switch from time to time accidentally and realize that it is up.  It gives you the comfortable feeling that you know your flaps are all the way up, not set for climb.  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:39 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Flaps  

  

   

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring  [quote]  http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com [b]

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: Flaps

Interesting thread.  I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm not flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your Mark-1 eyeballs on the flap .... like requiring you to have the neck bones of an owl???  Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close to what you want (or are used to) not work??  Just wondering out loud here.

 Linn

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 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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Here are your main two options:   

    

http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm   

    

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps   

    

I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come up with your own position sensor for theirs.  Most people seem to be using a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.   

    

http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html   

    

Michael Sausen   

-10 #352 Limbo   

          

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

   Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

   To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

   Subject: Flaps   

   

   

    

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring    	  Quote: 	
		    ;         - The RV10-List Email Forarch & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,_;  --> http://www.matronics.bsp;         - NEW MATRONICS WEB FO; http://forums.matronics.com 

	
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ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: Flaps

You can see the left flap just fine out the pilot side window without  craning your neck (during the daytime, that is). I used the optional flap  positioning system from Van's and a POS-12 sensor to indicate position on my  Advanced Flight Systems AF-2500. Sometimes it is tough to visually tell the  difference between the takeoff position and full up since it's only ~2 deg. The  difference between 1/2 and full flaps is obvious, however, I would think that it  would be difficult to consistently set the flaps to any particular setting  (other than full up or down) by eyeballing it. This would be even harder at  night. I'm not saying it can't be done, but from my own experience I typically  have more important things to be doing when I'm on approach besides counting  seconds on the flaps, eyeballing the position and/or wondering what the flare is  going to feel like with the estimated flap setting I just selected.

  

 -Jim

 40134

  

  Jim "Scooter"  McGrew

http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew  



  

 In a message dated 5/21/2007 9:56:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net writes:

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		  Interesting thread.  I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm    not flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your Mark-1    eyeballs on the flap .... like requiring you to have the neck bones of an    owl???  Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close to what you    want (or are used to) not work??  Just wondering out loud    here.

Linn

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Flaps

Nothing stopping you from doing that.  I was making an assumption that that wasn’t sufficient for something like an IFR environment.    

   

Michael  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:52 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flaps  

  

  

   

Interesting thread.  I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm not flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your Mark-1 eyeballs on the flap .... like requiring you to have the neck bones of an owl???  Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close to what you want (or are used to) not work??  Just wondering out loud here.

 Linn

 do not archive

 

 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 

   

Here are your main two options:  

   

http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm  

   

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps  

   

I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come up with your own position sensor for theirs.  Most people seem to be using a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.  

   

http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Flaps  

  

  

   

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: Flaps

I would think that when in IMC and focusing on getting to the ground, not having to count seconds would be a great way to lighten the workload on the pilot and keep his attention to the needles (or monitoring the Auto Pilot).  In most conditions it wouldn’t make much difference, but it is nice to not have to count.  When you have flown for a while you can feel the change when you lower the flaps with the FPS and know where they are (ie. 0, 15, or 30).  

   

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Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:52 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flaps  

  

   

Interesting thread.  I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm not flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your Mark-1 eyeballs on the flap ... like requiring you to have the neck bones of an owl???  Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close to what you want (or are used to) not work??  Just wondering out loud here.

 Linn

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 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 

   

   <![endif]-->        <![endif]-->Here are your main two options:  

   

http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm  

   

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps  

   

I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come up with your own position sensor for theirs.  Most people seem to be using a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.  

   

http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow

 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Flaps  

  

  

   

I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring   	  Quote: 	
		    ;         - The RV10-List Email Forarch & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,_;  --> http://www.matronics.bsp;         - NEW MATRONICS WEB FO; http://forums.matronics.com    	
  

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: Flaps

I typically don't add flaps until the runway is in sight in

the RV-10, due to the speed limitation.  90kts is a great

approach speed.  Unfortunately, 87kts is max on the flaps.

So unless you're willing to have a target airspeed of

80 or 85kts, you really won't use flaps for most of the approach.

In fact, if it were a low approach, I would probably only

bother with 1 notch of flaps or perhaps none, because you

wouldn't have the time to deal with it all in the last couple

hundred feet.  And, if you have 500' ceilings, you would

likely have the chance to throw in a notch or even two

with visual contact.



I totally agree that slow approach speeds are helpful to

keep you from being overwhelmed with the approach.  Unfortunately,

an 87kt limit on the flaps just isn't ideal for what we're

trying to accomplish here.  IMHO, that's the one single

thing I can note about the RV-10 for IMC flying that's kind

of a downer.  With a flap speed of 100kts, this would be

a non-issue.



Also, given the instruments I'm flying, even a stressful

approach leaves me with enough comfort where it wouldn't

be a big deal to do one over-the-shoulder check of flap

position.



So I find no need for a flap position indicator.  I am not

discouraging anyone from having one, but just stating that

I really don't see it as a big benefit.  Even the old

Johnson bar plane I used to fly, you really had to pull

the lever sometimes to feel that you had it clicked into

one position or the other, so not having an indicator isn't

something that is all that abnormal.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

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		   Nothing stopping you from doing that.  I was making an assumption that 

 that wasn’t sufficient for something like an IFR environment. 

 

  

 

 Michael

 

  

 

 *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com 

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *linn Walters

 *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2007 8:52 AM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* Re: Flaps

 

  

 

 Interesting thread.  I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm not 

 flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your Mark-1 

 eyeballs on the flap .... like requiring you to have the neck bones of 

 an owl???  Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close to what 

 you want (or are used to) not work??  Just wondering out loud here.

 Linn

 do not archive

 

 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

 

 Here are your main two options:

 

  

 

 http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm

 

  

 

 http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps 

 <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps>

 

  

 

 I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come up 

 with your own position sensor for theirs.  Most people seem to be using 

 a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.

 

  

 

 http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html

 

  

 

 Michael Sausen

 

 -10 #352 Limbo

 

  

 

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 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Marlow

 *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 *Subject:* Flaps

 

  

 

 I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just 

 wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the 

 flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring

 

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: Flaps

The Johnson bar was your indicator.  



Really?  87 knots before flaps!  Have you been on approach when the

controller has asked you to keep your speed up?  Any issues slowing down?  



John Jessen

  328



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: Flaps

Jesse's right here.  I was just teaching my wife landings

a week or so ago.  It goes like this:



Hit the flap switch to bring them to zero from -3....no change.

Ok, add one notch of flaps....ok, retrim for the pitch change.

Now, add one more notch....big pitch change, retrim.



You definitely know when you go full flaps, and going from

reflex to zero really is not generally noticeable and you

could do that during the very initial part of the approach.

So once you've initiated the flap extension, you really are

only dealing with one notch of flaps where you have to check

to know where you're at, and that's the initial one when

it goes to zero from reflex.  You could do this while

20miles out and then the rest would be too easy to worry

about.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Jesse Saint wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I would think that when in IMC and focusing on getting to the ground, 

 not having to count seconds would be a great way to lighten the workload 

 on the pilot and keep his attention to the needles (or monitoring the 

 Auto Pilot).  In most conditions it wouldn’t make much difference, but 

 it is nice to not have to count.  When you have flown for a while you 

 can feel the change when you lower the flaps with the FPS and know where 

 they are (ie. 0, 15, or 30).

dougpflyrv(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: Flaps

ARE U FOLKS WITH FLYING 10'S ACTUALLY GAINING ANY SPEED WITH THE REFLEX FLAP SETTING?

   THANKS,

   DOUG PRESTON

   40372

    

  

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Flaps

Good question...but one that I don't have an answer for.  Maybe

I'll just have to test that some day.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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dougpflyrv(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   ARE U FOLKS WITH FLYING 10'S ACTUALLY GAINING ANY SPEED WITH THE REFLEX 

 FLAP SETTING?

 THANKS,

 DOUG PRESTON

 40372

  

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: Flaps

It has a "placebo" type speed gain if nothing else, but I would say that we

have seen a speed gain, but haven't taken the time to actually measure the

difference.



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694

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retiredpilot03-serv(at)ya
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: Flaps

The controller should not ask you nor are you expected to keep your speed up beyond a stabilized approach speed when you are inside of the FAF.  Keeping the speed up above stabilized approach speed inside of this is and should be at your discretion.



John Jessen <jjessen(at)rcn.com> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" 



The Johnson bar was your indicator.  



Really?  87 knots before flaps!  Have you been on approach when the

controller has asked you to keep your speed up?  Any issues slowing down?  



John Jessen

  328



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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: Flaps

I remember one of the first RV-10's that were completed had their flaps rigged wrong.  They were having a difficult time reaching much above 200 mph and they found that the flaps were actually not fully re-flexed.  Once this was fixed, there was a noticeable increase in speed.  This was discussed in the RV-10 forum at Oshkosh in 2004 I believe.  One thing I have noticed is that my ailerons are actually lower than my flaps in cruise flight but are perfect on the ground.  The flap hits the rear spar only on half the flap due to the doubler.  The low pressure on top of the flap then pulls the flap up about 1/4" higher than the aileron. I have been meaning to raise my ailerons by 1/8" to see if there is an increase in speed but haven't had time to play with it yet. 

 

Scott Schmidt

scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com  



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ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: Flaps

I don't have the wheel pants on yet, and I typically cruise around 150 KTAS with 23 squared. I left the flaps in the takeoff setting once and saw about 140 KTAS once I set up in cruise. When I noticed my mistake, I raised the flaps to the reflex setting. You could audibly hear the prop unload and the plane accelerated about 10 knots; it felt like shifting gears. On my RV-10, the reflex setting makes a difference. 

  

  I don't have any numbers, but I can also feel the difference in the stall characteristics between reflex and takeoff settings.

  

  Jim

  40134

 

   

  

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sam(at)fr8dog.net
Guest

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Flaps

I thought the flaps were suppose to be at "0" for climb and -3 for cruise?



Jesse Saint wrote:

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 The FPS is fantastic. No indicator needed. Just hit the button and let 

 them go to the next position. It’s good to have a switch with 

 momentary down but not momentary up, so when you want to put them up 

 you just flip the switch up and they go all the way up. If you have 

 the switch on your stick grip, it is also nice to have your thumb hit 

 the switch from time to time accidentally and realize that it is up. 

 It gives you the comfortable feeling that you know your flaps are all 

 the way up, not set for climb.



 Jesse Saint



 Saint Aviation, Inc.



 jesse(at)saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>



 www.saintaviation.com <http://www.saintaviation.com>



 Cell: 352-427-0285



 Fax: 815-377-3694



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 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Marlow

 *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2007 8:39 AM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* Flaps



 I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just 

 wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, the 

 flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

 Thanks,

 Sam Marlow

 Still wiring



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sam(at)fr8dog.net
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: Flaps

The way I understand is, half flaps for takeoff, (15'), "0" for climb, 

and -3 for cruise. If the flaps are up all the way, it could degrade the 

climb performance.



linn Walters wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Interesting thread. I haven't given it serious thought. Since I'm not 

 flying yet, is there something that prevents you from using your 

 Mark-1 eyeballs on the flap .... like requiring you to have the neck 

 bones of an owl??? Does the 'counting seconds' method of coming close 

 to what you want (or are used to) not work?? Just wondering out loud here.

 Linn

 do not archive



 RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:

>

> Here are your main two options:

>

> http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm

>

> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps 

> <http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179752413-22-378&browse=airframe&product=fps>

>

> I’m going with the Aircraft Extras product however you have to come 

> up with your own position sensor for theirs. Most people seem to be 

> using a POS-12 from Ray Allen for this purpose.

>

> http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html

>

> Michael Sausen

>

> -10 #352 Limbo

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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com 

> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Marlow

> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2007 7:39 AM

> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

> *Subject:* Flaps

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> I'm finding little information on the flap positioning system, just 

> wondering what the majority of the group is doing here. After all, 

> the flaps are different than any airplane I've ever flown.

> Thanks,

> Sam Marlow

> Still wiring

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