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davercook(at)prodigy.net Guest
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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A friend is building a 9a. When I visited him today, he showed me a problem with his elevators. With the elevators in trail with the stabilizer, the counter balance arms did not align. One arm was up 3/8" the other was down 3/8" while the control horns were matched. Question Any one else have this problem? Hard to see any twist, but it is the only thing I can think of.
David R. Cook
RV-6 N815DC Flying 11Hours
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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne Guest
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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davercook wrote:
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A friend is building a 9a. When I visited him today, he showed me a
problem with his elevators. With the elevators in trail with the
stabilizer, the counter balance arms did not align. One arm was up 3/8"
the other was down 3/8" while the control horns were matched. Question
Any one else have this problem? Hard to see any twist, but it is the
only thing I can think of.
David R. Cook
RV-6 N815DC Flying 11Hours
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It's been a long time since I built the elevators on my -7 project, but
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IIRC, the control horns have enough meat to allow aligning the elevators
properly & then drilling as needed, with the holes possibly not centered.
Remember, the -9 has a totally different hor. tail.
Charlie
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dsvs(at)ca.rr.com Guest
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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When your friend gets to drilling the horns he will read that they almost never match. The elevators may not actually be in trail when the copunterbalance arms ate not matched to the HS.
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Bob Collins
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 470 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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The control horns matching is irrelevant. They don't factor in this process at all. The only thing that needs to happen here is the elevators trailing edge aligning with one another while the counterbalance arms clamped.
I would want to confirm this a little more and I think I would clamp the arms...and take a laser level and -- making sure the HS is level, of course -- line it with the trailing edge on one and see how the other stacks up. At the same time, that should, I would think, reveal any twist in the individual elevator.
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A friend is building a 9a. When I visited him today, he showed me a problem with his elevators. With the elevators in trail with the stabilizer, the counter balance arms did not align. One arm was up 3/8" the other was down 3/8" while the control horns were matched. Question Any one else have this problem? Hard to see any twist, but it is the only thing I can think of.
David R. Cook
RV-6 N815DC Flying 11Hours
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retasker(at)optonline.net Guest
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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The problem is that he is aligning the control arms. The instructions
specifically state that it is not necessary nor appropriate to line up
the control arms. One aligns the two sides of the elevator and then
drills the control arms at the same time with some sort of jig to make
sure you are drilling perpendicular to the arms.
The control arms typically do not line up perfectly. Unless they are so
far out that one cannot drill straight through both without getting too
close to the edge of one or the other there is no problem.
Dick Tasker
davercook wrote:
Quote: | Listers
A friend is building a 9a. When I visited him today, he showed me a
problem with his elevators. With the elevators in trail with the
stabilizer, the counter balance arms did not align. One arm was up
3/8" the other was down 3/8" while the control horns were matched.
Question Any one else have this problem? Hard to see any twist, but it
is the only thing I can think of.
David R. Cook
RV-6 N815DC Flying 11Hours
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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In a message dated 5/23/2007 6:47:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, davercook(at)prodigy.net writes:
Quote: | A friend is building a 9a. When I visited him today, he showed me a problem with his elevators. With the elevators in trail with the stabilizer, the counter balance arms did not align. One arm was up 3/8" the other was down 3/8" while the control horns were matched. Question Any one else have this problem? Hard to see any twist, but it is the only thing I can think of.
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I can't believe that Van's hasn't solved this problem in the 12 or 15 years since it has been going on. I ended up cutting, undersleeving and rewelding one side to reclock it, so I wasn't ashamed to put that poor fitting original piece of cr** on the plane.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 845hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
See what's free at AOL.com.
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kahamer(at)bigpond.net.au Guest
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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I had a similar problem in my 6A just not as much mismatch.Had the holes in the control horns welded up (actually just in one of them) aligned the elevators and redrilled.
It is very important to use a predrilled block of hard material to guide the drillbit so it is exactly perpendicular to the control horns.
Was a simple fix.
Regards
Karl Ahamer
7A near Sydney(cowling….)
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rv9jim(at)juno.com Guest
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
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Dave,
I had the same problem. The solution is to move one of the rod
ends in or out that suport the horiz stab. It drove me bonkers untill I
was removing the stab's and I accidently moved it only a bit rearward and
suddenly all things lined up. I then rotated the rod end one half rev
and re-assembled it and it was almost where it needed to be. I then
rotated it one more half turn and the counterweights line up and it was
great. The one rod end I rotated was the one closest to the fuselage not
the outside rod end. Problem solved!
Jim Nelson
RV9-A
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