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The things you find on the hangar floor !

 
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David Lucas



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Now who was it that wanted a twin engine Kolb ?
Well OK, Not a twin but single engine driving twin props.
Interesting eh ?
David.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

At 05:15 AM 5/26/2007, David Lucas wrote:
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Now who was it that wanted a twin engine Kolb ?
Well OK, Not a twin but single engine driving twin props.

Interesting... what is it, what's it for?

-Dana
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Some innovative design work there. Nice engine mount. The engine is
from the Daimler smart car,
3 cyl, 4 stroke , ??HP The problems of redrive and harmonics are
well taken care of. Hard to transmit
harmonics of any magnitude back through a belt that long. In
addition the props are in cleaner
air than if directly behind or front of the engine. The tail boom
can be located directly behind the
cabin even in pusher mode.

looks like a kraut mind at work :}
BB


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Slick BB got it ! The engine was developed from the 'smart' city car, a 700cc 3 cylinder turbocharged engine producing around 80HP at 5250 RPM with a 2.1 : 1 reduction belt drive and its quiet ! http://www.ecofly.de/english.htm

Thought it might be quite suitable for a Kolb, but it's also quite pricey at around €11,000 = US$ 14,500. Their flight tests say it equals or outperforms the Rotax 912 in all phases of flight.

The twin prop drive idea is for a pusher design the same guy was developing with the props out in clean air. I've added a photo from a brochure so it's not too good quality, just FYI.

Now who was it that was going to put two engines on their Kolb ?

David.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Several? couple? years ago I wondered whether an engine from a
hybrid...either existing or a future one, would be suitable for a
small /fat Ul/sport. Pretty soon they'll be in junk yards. Still
thinking/wondering.

regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: The things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Me too. Specifically, I have wondered about the three cylinder, 1.0
liter Honda engine from the Insight. A 650cc version was used in the
Honda Beat, which was not available in the US. I can't find anything
on the web that lists the weight of either engine. The 1.3 liter four
cylinder used in the Honda Fit also looks interesting.

Rick Nelson
On 5/27/07, Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net> wrote:
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Several? couple? years ago I wondered whether an engine from a
hybrid...either existing or a future one, would be suitable for a
small /fat Ul/sport. Pretty soon they'll be in junk yards. Still
thinking/wondering.

regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: the things you find on the hangar floor ! Reply with quote

Mr Funk also designed this in 1984
Has a familiar look about it
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