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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Well that ought to really slow that 52 down making it a really good target! Bet when he fires those 7.62's he's hanging on the stall warning horn or standing still from the recoil. 

Just when I was about to bring up the YAK 53 (?) that Kilo has been flying intermittently, along comes this with hard points and rocket launchers hanging under the wing. 

Mark, where is this quit deadly 52 flying out of? Got any more pictures of her?

Doc



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Least we not forget the fast movers that liked to salvo those choice little rockets.  We would be remiss in not identifying those aircraft the used them in close air support. Like the Flogger, Fishbed, Flanker,and Frogfoot just to name some of the many iron curtain aircraft that sported those nasty little buggers! Now we see someone had the bright idea of hanging the launchers on the lowly trainers too. Is nothing sacred?



"It would be better suited keeping it on the Hind, as it would be faster.



Well at 80 -90% with a positive V sub C closing to about 1500 ft, that Cub is probably toast. Figure the YAK is going to be bingo at the merge though with those big parasites hanging out there. And to say the least, flying backwards when he pickles that salvo! The gear's nothing compared to drag from those guys! 

Unless you flying a J-3 cub I donâ€™t think you would need to worry about your 6â€¦â€¦"



Doc



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mark(at)alternativesolar.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Hi Doc,



This is the only picture of the deadly  52 that I could find in the Yak websites.  She is appropriately numbered lucky number 07 on the cowl.   The front tire is quite flat in the picture and the red jack under the left pod is another indication that she may not be so lucky.    I wonder if the pods are aux. fuel tanks in disguise.



Mark



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f4ffm2(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Hi Mark,



      I'm sorry that I did not give you details of the Yak 52 with  

the rocket pods when I sent you the picture.  It's in the Russian Air  

Force museum at Monino near Moscow.



Best regards,



Roger  

Baker___________________________________________________________________ 

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On Jun 11, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Mark Weidhaas wrote:



[quote] 

 <mark(at)alternativesolar.com>



 Hi Doc,



 This is the only picture of the deadly  52 that I could find in the  

 Yak websites.  She is appropriately numbered lucky number 07 on the  

 cowl.   The front tire is quite flat in the picture and the red  

 jack under the left pod is another indication that she may not be  

 so lucky.    I wonder if the pods are aux. fuel tanks in disguise.



 Mark



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Mark,

Afraid I have had the pleasure of examining those launchers up close. They appear pretty real from that picture. But what a drag they would be when emptied not to say anything about when they are being emptied!

Doc



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MarkWDavis

Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 104
Location: Syracuse, KS

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Using hardpoints or guns as a determining factor, an SR-71 isn't a warbird 

and a C-47 gunship is.  Nor was an RF-8G Crusader or RA-5C Vigilante, but a 

C-130 they can shove a MOAB out of the back would be.  Now I'm really 

confused!   I'm going to have to take my YAK "poser" in for therapy before I 

have 25w-60 tears all over the floor of my hangar.....



Mark Davis



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Roger..Roger,

Thanks for the info. Looks like the venerable 52 has achieved true Warbird status. Not just a military trainer anymore! An who says a silk purse can't come from a sow's ear.

Doc



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Boy I'm with you, this is getting really confusing now. Lets see, the T-6 II

Texan would not be nor would the T-38 be one but the T-37 would as would the

0-2 be, but not the KC-135 nor the C-141 but the C-130 would be if the

definition stands clearly. This is truly confusing to me as best I can see.

I know how to solve this calamity...I don't know about all ye but I going to

fly my YAK in this Alabama heat and humidity. That should bring some clarity

to this issue even if it is just to me! 

See ya on the airways!

Check 6,

Doc 



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Excuse me, but I have fired a M92F Berretta from the cockpit of my YAK-50.  I have also dropped really big M-160 firecrackers of my own design.  A flare gun has also been experimented with.  Doing all of that certainly would make me one crazy SOB but that is not the point.  It clearly would make MY aircraft a warbird. Right?  Not your YAK-50 mind you, just mine.    



Of course, I am only kidding, only a NUT would really do such things.  



Mark Bitterlich



P.s.  Recipe:  By weight: 70% Potassium Perchlorate, 15% ground aluminum flake 600 mesh,  15% ground Magnesium Flake 600 mesh.  Place in suitable container, add quality fuse.  If Magnesium flake is too hard to find, use 30% Aluminum flake.  



P.p.s.  Before mixing above, hire lawyer.  BATF will be looking for you, and if you are not careful YOU will be looking for your fingers.    



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Hey there is not an RV that can turn with me that is for sure! :>o)!

Hate to admit, I wimped out. The OAT was 101 deg F at 1730! I need to put a firewall insulation pad over the oil cooler and install a fresh air vent hose for the fuselage to tolerate this 101 stuff. Add 101 outside air to the 60-70 C air coming off the cooler and it gets almost hot! I know...I know, you guys out in AZ and Ca high desert fly in this all the time. But who out there has 70-90% humidity to go with it.

We know they are not heavy iron warbirds, but everybody else does not know that! 

Besides, they are just plain fun to fly and the rest is just rubbish! 

After all, "its' not about the flight suit, the helmet, or the brief, its' about the flying!"

Doc

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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Doc,



When it gets that hot up here, I just wear a nomex thong and I am good...



oh yeah..and gloves too.

talew(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

You seem to add nothing to the content of the list so you are now on my 

deleat list.

good by.

Terry

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MarkWDavis

Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 104
Location: Syracuse, KS

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

I guess "warbird" just always meant military aircraft to me (and possibly 

some others as well).  What conflict was a -52 in?  Easy answer.  Mine and 

two others were engaged over Bull Shoals Reservoir last weekend at Gaston's 

Great Weekend Getaway in a little 1v1 and a nice 2v1 furball.  Probably 

sounded like the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot to boaters below.   No shots 

fired, but a few pipper burns requiring chilled liquid medication afterward 

for all.



Mark Davis



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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

There is only one person that I care about who needs to keep thinking this is a warbird, and that is my insurance man. As long as I get "cheaper" premiums, then you can call it whatever you want.

HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 503

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

 	  Quote: 	
		  You seem to add nothing to the content of the list so you are now on my 

deleat list.

good by.

Terry 	




Who was that directed towards? (I guess I will know if it was me if he does not respond due being on the delete list.)

talew(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

flir47

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fish(at)aviation-tech.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Group,



If you want to get down to it: A real warbird is one that

has fired shots at or taken shots in combat.



Very few aircraft(including big iron), has been shot at or

received shots in combat!



With that said, I will still consider my BT-13's, L-5's,

T-33 (sold last year), PT-19, PT-26 and Yak-52 as a warbird!



Laterrrrr

John Fischer



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From: "Mark Davis" <mark(at)pld.com>

To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: Re: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:52:26 -0600



[quote] 

 <mark(at)pld.com>

 

 I guess "warbird" just always meant military aircraft to

 me (and possibly  some others as well).  What conflict was

 a -52 in?  Easy answer.  Mine and  two others were engaged

 over Bull Shoals Reservoir last weekend at Gaston's  Great

 Weekend Getaway in a little 1v1 and a nice 2v1 furball. 

 Probably  sounded like the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot to

 boaters below.   No shots  fired, but a few pipper burns

 requiring chilled liquid medication afterward  for all.

 

 Mark Davis

 

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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

This photo was taken at a Lithuania air force training base by me in 2005. 

Note the Cross of Lorraine national marking on the tail.

Dennis



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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

I really don't know what it might confirm.  One thing for sure, it displays 

the official insignia seen on Lithuanian military aircraft as are the green 

and gray.  The reason for sending the photo of the 52 on the pedestal was 

because the 52's were and still are used by the Lithuanian air force for 

training purposes.  Plus, it was so unique to me to see a 52 on a pedestal 

at the entrance to an airfield.  That's why I took the picture in the first 

place.

Dennis



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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: Bear 360 / Radial engine pod

It's a Christian orthodox symbol, going back to the 15th century. That's

probably the reason why it's used by the Lituanians after the fall of the

Soviet empire. For your information, it was also used by the French

Vichy-regime during the second World War (reason why you might see it on

some french airplanes).



Jan Mevis

RA2005K

YK50



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