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bobf(at)feldtman.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: commander radios

I just pulled a bunch of old radios (ADF, transponder, B4 autopilot, all the wires, actuators, control heads from the front panel) out of my 500B. Increased carrying load! Anybody interested in this stuff? ADF still working fine when I removed it - B4 didn't work ( was both electrical and vaccum powered). So if anybody wants it - let me know I am in Temple, Texas 

bobf



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Jim Addington

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 62
Location: Denton, Texas

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: commander radios

Robert, What brand is the ADF and is  the antenna good?

 Jim Addington (Denton, Texas)

 N444BD

  

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bobf(at)feldtman.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: commander radios

I'll have to see what brand. the antenna was just a wire with a spring up to the tail. you can make that yourself real easy



bobf



On 6/18/07, Jim Addington  <jtaddington(at)charter.net (jtaddington(at)charter.net)> wrote:[quote] Robert, What brand is the ADF and is  the antenna good?

Jim Addington (Denton, Texas)

 N444BD

 

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: commander radios

Good Morning bobf,   

 Maybe I have missed something here, but an ADF generally has some sort of a  loop antenna. Some are solid state and some are mechanical. Older units  generally have a separate sense antenna while the newest ones tend to have the  sense and loop antenna all in the same unit.  

  

 The wire you describe sounds like a sense antenna. For the ADF to operate  as a direction finding device, you need to have some sort of "loop"  antenna.

  

 The wire would have worked just fine for the low frequency range  stations!

  

 How old is that Commander? Any possibility whet you removed was simply a  low frequency receiver?

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630  985-8503



  

 In a message dated 6/19/2007 5:49:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:

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		  I'll    have to see what brand. the antenna was just a wire with a spring up to the    tail. you can make that yourself real  easy



bobf

	


 





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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: commander radios

bf, do not need avionics but glad to know another commander driver in the neighborhood. mason 2001M  fort worth

 [quote]  Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:48:36 -0500

From: bobf(at)feldtman.com

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: commander radios

I'll have to see what brand. the antenna was just a wire with a spring up to the tail. you can make that yourself real easy

bobf

 On 6/18/07, Jim Addington <jtaddington(at)charter.net (jtaddington(at)charter.net)> wrote:  [quote]  Robert, What brand is the ADF and is the antenna good?

 Jim Addington (Denton, Texas)

 N444BD

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Jim Addington

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 62
Location: Denton, Texas

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: commander radios

Thanks for checking, I have one of those I took off  when I put the Collins 650A in. My ADF is a Yankee, it points when going north  but won't point going south. For a good Southern boy this is  disgraceful.

 Jim Addington

 N444BD

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: commander radios

ja, you just running the backcourse. mason



 [quote]  From: jtaddington(at)charter.net

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: commander radios

Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:50:56 -0500



     Thanks for checking, I have one of those I took off when I put the Collins 650A in. My ADF is a Yankee, it points when going north but won't point going south. For a good Southern boy this is disgraceful.

 Jim Addington

 N444BD

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Jim Addington

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 62
Location: Denton, Texas

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: commander radios

The problem is that the wind blows from the south most of  the time.

 Jim

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steveg(at)nternet.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: commander radios

Jim,  

   

What airport do you keep N444BD?  I am going to fly up to visit my brother in the Lake Dallas area in a few weeks and would like to avoid Addison if possible.  

   

Steve Gilson  

   

         

  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington

 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:24 PM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Commander-List: commander radios  

  

     

Robert, What brand is the ADF and is the antenna good?  

    

Jim Addington (Denton,  Texas)  

    

N444BD  

    

   

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Jim Addington

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 62
Location: Denton, Texas

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: commander radios

Steve, I keep mine at Denton Municipal, DTO, 8  miles north of Lake Dallas, but there is a grass strip at Lake  Dallas,Lakeview 30F. I have had my Commander in there and a friend of mine used  to take a DC-3 in there.Gas is high here at Denton so you might want to come  with enough gas to make the round trip. They have gotten big time ideas here and  might charge you for tie down for over night. I looked on  airnav, Decatur 8F7 is even cheep gas and it is 19 west. 

 My wife is down in her hips and now her back,  doesn't want me to go any where because she is afraid she will fall, so may  not be able to come out. I sure would like to meet you and see your  plane. If I can help in any way please let me know.

 Jim Addington

 N444BD

 500A

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bobf(at)feldtman.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: commander radios

The commander is a 1964 and the ADF is an old coffee can crank type. Picks up AM radio great - used to fly along listening to Rush Limbaugh on some of the powerful AM stations. There is so much junk in the boxes of stuff they removed, there may be a loop antenna in there I didn't notice. The crank turned a cable all the way to the back! 

  

 bobf



 

 On 6/19/07, BobsV35B(at)aol.com (BobsV35B(at)aol.com) <BobsV35B(at)aol.com (BobsV35B(at)aol.com)> wrote: [quote]    Good Morning bobf,   

 Maybe I have missed something here, but an ADF generally has some sort of a loop antenna. Some are solid state and some are mechanical. Older units generally have a separate sense antenna while the newest ones tend to have the sense and loop antenna all in the same unit.   

  

 The wire you describe sounds like a sense antenna. For the ADF to operate as a direction finding device, you need to have some sort of "loop" antenna.

  

 The wire would have worked just fine for the low frequency range stations!

  

 How old is that Commander? Any possibility whet you removed was simply a low frequency receiver?

  

 Happy Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8503



   

 In a message dated 6/19/2007 5:49:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobf(at)feldtman.com (bobf(at)feldtman.com) writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  I'll have to see what brand. the antenna was just a wire with a spring up to the tail. you can make that yourself real easy 



bobf

	


 





   See what's free at AOL.com.  

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: commander radios

Good Evening Bob,   

 That sounds like a Bendix manual loop receiver. The loop was mechanically  actuated by that flex cable. In those days, what we now call ADF approaches were  DF approaches and we could use a manual or even a fixed loop to execute the  approach. Kind of a fun thing to do, but ADF made life a whole lot easier!

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630  985-8503



  

 In a message dated 6/19/2007 5:42:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  bobf(at)feldtman.com writes:

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		     The commander is a 1964 and the ADF is an old coffee can crank type.    Picks up AM radio great - used to fly along listening to Rush Limbaugh on some    of the powerful AM stations. There is so much junk in the boxes of stuff they    removed, there may be a loop antenna in there I didn't notice. The crank    turned a cable all the way to the back! 

    

   bobf



	


 





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