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philipguziec(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

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Anyone know the background on this plane?  Can you commander experts fill me in on the Mr RPM executive 800 conversion?  Reputation, performance, etc.  What is the max pressure differential on these?



Seems like it'd be one hell of a capable airplane.



Phil

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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

Hello Phillip,

  

 I expect there are guys on the list who can give  you a run-down on the performance of the Turbo 800 680FLP.

  

 What I can tell you is that only 36 680FLP's were  built, with two of these subsequently converted to another Model (1 to 680FL, 1  to 680T).

  

 Of the remaining 36, 13 have had the Mr RPM Turbo  800 conversion. Original engines were Lycoming IGSO-540-B1A or  -B1C.

  

 I think Tylor Hall knows this plane, so no doubt  he will have some input. 'Wing Commander' Gordon may also have 'inspected' it,  but I'm not sure.

  

 Serial Number is 1477-5 (the 1,477th Commander  built, and the 5th Model 680FLP). Was first Certificated on December 27th  1964.

  

 I haven't traced any accident damage, but I think  there was a Form 337 dated August 4th 2004 outlining repairs to lower right  fuselage and belly.

 That might indicate a collapse of the Right MLG,  so it may be prudent to ask.

  

 I'd like to know what the "New Full Length  Blades" are. Anyone any idea what blade model is involved?

  

 Best Regards,

 Barry Collman

UK CommanderLand Rep.

High  Wycombe, England

"Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much  space"

  

  

  

  

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John Vormbaum

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

Judging by the amount of rust visible on the brake  rotor in the pictures, that airplane hasn't flown in a while. Also, where are  the engine cowlings? You usually don't take them off unless you're doing some  pretty in-depth work...

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  bc, 47RR was involved in a prop strike on the right side due to a mechanic  hooking the hydraulic lines up backwards.  the prop was borrowed off of  2001m and it was replaced with new, unfortunately the left one was illegal so  now they are both new on 2001m.  I suspicion that since the a/c had no  props on its sale there may be more in its history. mason 

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philipguziec(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

So the turbo 800 is a reliability and high altitude bump, from 380 to 400 hp and supercharged to turbocharged.



Wonder what the single engine ROC is at gross.



It does look like it has been sitting a while.  Bankruptcy auction?



Phil

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		  Of the remaining 36, 13 have had the Mr RPM Turbo 800 conversion. 

Original engines were Lycoming IGSO-540-B1A or -B1C.


	


 	  Quote: 	
		  I think Tylor Hall knows this plane, so no doubt he will have some 

input. 'Wing Commander' Gordon may also have 'inspected' it, but I'm not 

sure.


	


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		  I'd like to know what the "New Full Length Blades" are. Anyone any idea 

what blade model is involved?


	


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		  Judging by the amount of rust visible on the brake rotor in the 

pictures, that airplane hasn't flown in a while. Also, where are the 

engine cowlings? You usually don't take them off unless you're doing 

some pretty in-depth work...

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kamala(at)MSN.COM
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  pg,flp is a 8500lb a/c roc will depend on temp and alt.  a/c has been  a work in progress for appox.5 years. mason   call me if you like  817-517-4977

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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

Hi Phillip,

  

 Yes, I forgot to mention that the Turbo 800  modification involved Rajay Turbochargers being installed on the IO-720s, under  STC SE62WE.

  

 I too would like to know what the performance  figures are for the Turbo 800.

  

 Presumable factory figures supplied to Jane's  "All The World's Aircraft", the Single Engined ROC is stated to be 252fpm.,  although earlier editions quoted 215fpm. These were at Sea Level and no doubt  "standard atmospheric conditions".

  

 Best Regards,

 Barry Collman

UK CommanderLand Rep.

High  Wycombe, England

"Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much  space"

  

  

  

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: 1964 Aero Commander Twin 680 FL(P) on Ebay

So, at that configuration, it’s also just hanging in the air waiting for a sky hook.  

   

         

  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman

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Hi Phillip,  

    

   

    

Yes, I forgot to mention that the Turbo 800 modification involved Rajay Turbochargers being installed on the IO-720s, under STC SE62WE.  

    

   

    

I too would like to know what the performance figures are for the Turbo 800.  

    

   

    

Presumable factory figures supplied to Jane's "All The World's Aircraft", the Single Engined ROC is stated to be 252fpm., although earlier editions quoted 215fpm. These were at Sea Level and no doubt "standard atmospheric conditions".  

    

   

    

Best Regards,  

    

Barry Collman

 UK CommanderLand Rep.

 High Wycombe, England

 "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space"  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

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