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rampil
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 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events |
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I just had the opportunity to search the AAIB site for Europa events
and to contrast the metadata with the NTSB data I am familiar with.
By metadata, I am referring the size and rough outlines of the data,
not specific content.
As of today, there are 216 accidents in the UK data and 5 in the US.
I know the Europa has been in the UK longer by 4 or 5 years out of
perhaps 12 and there are approximately double the number of AC
in the UK. Those facts alone seem inadequate to explain the 40:1
accident ratio.
Is the AAIB far more sensitive to inclusion in events? There are quite a
few prop strikes and ground loops, but these would be included in the
NTSB if any damage occurred.
Does anyone have an explaination or hypothesis?
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steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events |
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Ira
As a first reponse to your e-mail I would say, from a cursory glance at the
AAIB web page, that all 216 incidents do not relate to Europas (some are
commercial aircraft so why the search engine picked these out.........???).
I would also say that there also appear to be some duplications or follow up
reports to earlier reports so I do not think that the statistics are
accurate.
Nevertheless there are many reports and, again from my QNG (quick nervous
glance) the relevant reports of Europa incidents do appear to have been
accurately picked out from the AAIB and put into the Europa members site.
Why there is a numerical discrepancy between the AAIB and FAA site is beyond
this readers knowledge.
Regards
Steve Pitt
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jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.c
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events |
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Hi Ira,
In the UK I believe every little thing that happens gets put on the books.
Somebody always watching and all that. Over here we have some leeway and
you can call your kitbuilt whatever you want here like the IRAR2007 if you
wish. Hence it would not show up on a Europa data search. I've had two
propstrikes and one crash (not Europa) and nothing is on the records.
Jim T.
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jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.c
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events |
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gcrowder2
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Location: Golden, Colorado USA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events |
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The door came off my plane when it was being flown by the original builder, fluttered
down into a lady's back yard. When she found it there, she drove over to the airport,
walked in the FBO with the door and said "does this belong to anybody here?". Nobody knew anything but a week later the owner came into the FBO and saw it sitting behind the counter!
Glenn
[quote] From: jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.com
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: AAIB vs NTSB reports of Europa events
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:58:50 -0400
--> Europa-List message posted by: "James" <jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.com>
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