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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

I am mostly working in that awkward, constricted, congested hell-hole between the panel and the firewall.  My forearms always have multiple puncture wounds healing at any one time.  They are not serious injuries, but I still have to stop work to get a Band-Aid to minimize the blood spots on the airplane. The main culprit is the square cut off ends of wiring zip ties.  I am using the "low-profile" ties, but the ends are still exposed and SHARP. I know that there are ties available that are installed with a tool that cuts the ends very short, and ones that tuck the ends in the clasp, but these seem over-complicated to me. 



A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties?  If not, will someone please invent one !!



Jay in Dallas

ljkyle(at)insightbb.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Try a toe nail or nail clipper.

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Michael Valentine

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 108

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Large toenail clippers?



Michael in NH 

do not archive



On 7/4/07, Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com) < Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)> wrote:[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by:  Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)



A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties?  If not, will someone please invent one !! 



Jay in Dallas[b]

david_a_g_johnson(at)btin
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

I'm at the same stage and using spiral wrap, which holds the wires together 

very firmly but still allows you to branch out anywhere you want to.



Dave Johnson



601XL, Jabiru 3300 engine just arrived!



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vulcanc2002(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

A LARGE SIZE TOENAIL CLIPPER ROUNDS THEM A LITTLE BIT!

   

  DAVE IN MN



Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:

  [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist(at)cs.com



I am mostly working in that awkward, constricted, congested hell-hole between the panel and the firewall. My forearms always have multiple puncture wounds healing at any one time. They are not serious injuries, but I still have to stop work to get a Band-Aid to minimize the blood spots on the airplane. The main culprit is the square cut off ends of wiring zip ties. I am using the "low-profile" ties, but the ends are still exposed and SHARP. I know that there are ties available that are installed with a tool that cuts the ends very short, and ones that tuck the ends in the clasp, but these seem over-complicated to me. 



A simpler solution would be to round [quote][b]

vulcanc2002(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

LARGE CLIPPERS, NOT TOENAILS.  



Michael Valentine <mgvalentine(at)gmail.com> wrote:  [quote]Large toenail clippers?



Michael in NH 

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  On 7/4/07, Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com) < Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)> wrote:  [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)



A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties?  If not, will someone please invent one !! 



Jay in [quote][b]

NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Paul,

  

 Do you have the diagram on how to tie the lacing? I had it but lost it and  am not sure on the best way to tie it.

  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 7/4/2007 1:09:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  I tried    the nylon ties inside my wing, but was unable to get the 

Tefzel wires to    stay put as required.  The lacing tape works MUCH    BETTER.



Paul

XL fuselage



	


 

  



See what's free at AOL.com. 

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wjones(at)brazoriainet.co
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if  some one has a way to send it.

 Wade Jones    South Texas 

601XL plans building

Cont.  0200

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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Wade,

 Thanks, I will get the dust off my AC-13 and look it up. Thanks for the  reference

  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

 In a message dated 7/4/2007 2:35:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  wjones(at)brazoriainet.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if    some one has a way to send it.

   Wade Jones    South Texas 

601XL plans    building

Cont. 0200

	


 

  



See what's free at AOL.com. 

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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Bob,



I have attached a pdf of the manual Wade referenced.



Jay in Dallas



"wade jones" <wjones(at)brazoriainet.com> wrote:



[quote]Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if some one has a way to send it.

Wade Jones    South Texas

601XL plans building

Cont. 0200

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Hi Bob,



 Sorry, I didn't even know there was an approved way to tie the lacing.  I just wrap it around the wires a couple of times and tie a variation on a square knot.  I also like to drill a small hole in rib webs and run the lacing through and tie on both sides of the web.  That keeps the whole bundle from slipping through the rib.



 Paul



 

 At 10:58 AM 7/4/2007, you wrote:

 [quote]Paul,

  

 Do you have the diagram on how to tie the lacing? I had it but lost it and am not sure on the best way to tie it.

  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 7/4/2007 1:09:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net writes:

   I tried the nylon ties inside my wing, but was unable to get the 

  Tefzel wires to stay put as required.  The lacing tape works MUCH BETTER.



  Paul

  XL fuselage



   

 

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pilot4pay

Joined: 01 Jan 2007
Posts: 171
Location: Louisville, KY

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper

I've always used flush cutting wire cutters, a regular and angled pair to

get to almost everywhere. They trim stem flush with grip, and no sliced arms

or backs of hands. Been using them for decades.

CS 



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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper

Jay,

  

 Thanks

  

 Bob  do not archive

  

  

  

 In a message dated 7/4/2007 3:53:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  Jaybannist(at)cs.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Bob,



I have attached a pdf of the manual Wade    referenced.



Jay in Dallas

	


 

  



See what's free at AOL.com. 

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