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Jaybannist(at)cs.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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I am mostly working in that awkward, constricted, congested hell-hole between the panel and the firewall. My forearms always have multiple puncture wounds healing at any one time. They are not serious injuries, but I still have to stop work to get a Band-Aid to minimize the blood spots on the airplane. The main culprit is the square cut off ends of wiring zip ties. I am using the "low-profile" ties, but the ends are still exposed and SHARP. I know that there are ties available that are installed with a tool that cuts the ends very short, and ones that tuck the ends in the clasp, but these seem over-complicated to me.
A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties? If not, will someone please invent one !!
Jay in Dallas
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ljkyle(at)insightbb.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Try a toe nail or nail clipper.
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Michael Valentine
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 108
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Large toenail clippers?
Michael in NH
do not archive
On 7/4/07, Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com) < Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)> wrote:[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)
A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties? If not, will someone please invent one !!
Jay in Dallas[b]
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david_a_g_johnson(at)btin Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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I'm at the same stage and using spiral wrap, which holds the wires together
very firmly but still allows you to branch out anywhere you want to.
Dave Johnson
601XL, Jabiru 3300 engine just arrived!
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vulcanc2002(at)yahoo.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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A LARGE SIZE TOENAIL CLIPPER ROUNDS THEM A LITTLE BIT!
DAVE IN MN
Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:
[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist(at)cs.com
I am mostly working in that awkward, constricted, congested hell-hole between the panel and the firewall. My forearms always have multiple puncture wounds healing at any one time. They are not serious injuries, but I still have to stop work to get a Band-Aid to minimize the blood spots on the airplane. The main culprit is the square cut off ends of wiring zip ties. I am using the "low-profile" ties, but the ends are still exposed and SHARP. I know that there are ties available that are installed with a tool that cuts the ends very short, and ones that tuck the ends in the clasp, but these seem over-complicated to me.
A simpler solution would be to round [quote][b]
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vulcanc2002(at)yahoo.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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LARGE CLIPPERS, NOT TOENAILS.
Michael Valentine <mgvalentine(at)gmail.com> wrote: [quote]Large toenail clippers?
Michael in NH
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On 7/4/07, Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com) < Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jaybannist(at)cs.com (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)
A simpler solution would be to round the exposed end to eliminate the sharp corners. Does anyone know of a nipper that would cut a round end on the ties? If not, will someone please invent one !!
Jay in [quote][b]
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NYTerminat(at)aol.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Paul,
Do you have the diagram on how to tie the lacing? I had it but lost it and am not sure on the best way to tie it.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 7/4/2007 1:09:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net writes:
Quote: | I tried the nylon ties inside my wing, but was unable to get the
Tefzel wires to stay put as required. The lacing tape works MUCH BETTER.
Paul
XL fuselage
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See what's free at AOL.com.
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wjones(at)brazoriainet.co Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if some one has a way to send it.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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NYTerminat(at)aol.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Wade,
Thanks, I will get the dust off my AC-13 and look it up. Thanks for the reference
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 7/4/2007 2:35:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wjones(at)brazoriainet.com writes:
Quote: | Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if some one has a way to send it.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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See what's free at AOL.com.
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Bob,
I have attached a pdf of the manual Wade referenced.
Jay in Dallas
"wade jones" <wjones(at)brazoriainet.com> wrote:
[quote]Hi Bob ,I have no way to send it but it is on page 11-63 of AC 43.13-B if some one has a way to send it.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Hi Bob,
Sorry, I didn't even know there was an approved way to tie the lacing. I just wrap it around the wires a couple of times and tie a variation on a square knot. I also like to drill a small hole in rib webs and run the lacing through and tie on both sides of the web. That keeps the whole bundle from slipping through the rib.
Paul
At 10:58 AM 7/4/2007, you wrote:
[quote]Paul,
Do you have the diagram on how to tie the lacing? I had it but lost it and am not sure on the best way to tie it.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 7/4/2007 1:09:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net writes:
I tried the nylon ties inside my wing, but was unable to get the
Tefzel wires to stay put as required. The lacing tape works MUCH BETTER.
Paul
XL fuselage
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pilot4pay
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 171 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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I've always used flush cutting wire cutters, a regular and angled pair to
get to almost everywhere. They trim stem flush with grip, and no sliced arms
or backs of hands. Been using them for decades.
CS
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: Zip tie nipper |
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Jay,
Thanks
Bob do not archive
In a message dated 7/4/2007 3:53:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jaybannist(at)cs.com writes:
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I have attached a pdf of the manual Wade referenced.
Jay in Dallas
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