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cbaron66

Joined: 17 May 2007
Posts: 16

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

Has anyone tried to do a sliding canopy on a 601XL yet? I think it would be a neat idea.

Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: How about a sliding canopy?

It has been done. There is at least one picture of a sliding canopy 601 on the Zenith site. 

 	  cbaron66 wrote: 	
		  Has anyone tried to do a sliding canopy on a 601XL yet? I think it would be a neat idea.

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

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daveaustin2(at)primus.ca
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

As owner of a sliding canopy, I say "beware".

They are difficult to keep sliding easily.  Any distortion of the airframe, 

say in an incident, and they don't slide at all.  Even a small situation 

causing dust/sand to get in the tracks jams them.

Spitfire pilots always opened the canopy before landing.  I wish I had.

Dave Austin  601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII

BobTezyk

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Midlothian, TX

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: Re: How about a sliding canopy?

I was considering purchasing one that was for sale in Vancouver, WA.  The airplane was very well built.  While I liked the idea of a fixed windscreen, the canopy itself was a little fragile.  The latching mechanism  was hard to latch and not foolproof.  The biggest reason I walked away was that the additional support structure added a lot of weight.  There was a lot more metal required to make it all work.



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Bob Tezyk

601XL QB/ J3300 

Midlothian, TX

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mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

This is the first built version of what I am thinking about that I have seen

yet.  A three point support is the only way to go here I think.  I believe

it would also prevent the jamming that was mentioned before.

Does anyone have any plans for this sort of design?

I was thinking about a recessed rear attachment point, but I had not figured

out how to keep water out of the fuselage yet.  The external one would be

very easy to build and I could work up a design that keeps it flush with the

plane rather than raised as shown.

All ideas are wanted and appreciated.

Thanks, Matt

XLVair



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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

do not archive



...just do not forget that the upper fuselage aft of the cockpit is substantially wider than the forward end of the canopy/instrument panel...



Matt Stecher <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt Stecher" 



This is the first built version of what I am thinking about that I have seen

yet.  A three point support is the only way to go here I think.  I believe

it would also prevent the jamming that was mentioned before.

Does anyone have any plans for this sort of design?

I was thinking about a recessed rear attachment point, but I had not figured

out how to keep water out of the fuselage yet.  The external one would be

very easy to build and I could work up a design that keeps it flush with the

plane rather than raised as  shown.

All ideas are wanted and appreciated.

Thanks, Matt

XLVair



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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

I don't see anything wrong with more "hoop's" going from the left side to 

the rt. side and abrace tieing them in end to end. I can't stand the shakie, 

shake, every time  you open or close                   Joe N101HD 601 XL

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mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

It  would seem fairly simple to design a sliding canopy that would raise up a few  inches at the front and then slide to the rear.

  

 From  my own design work I know that the devil is always in the details and I have not  thought this completely through, but I think I will give this allot of  thought.

  

 I have  awhile before I get to that stage, so I have some time and will keep my eyes  open for other sliding designs.

  

 Take  care,

 Matt

 XLVair

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gregnk8(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: How about a sliding canopy?

I asked the question of venturay and got a picture of one of their test plane with it on they say is flying.  can;t find the attachmnet now so maybe contact them. 



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