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hrs1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: E-LSA registration

Is there any way the 701 kit which I'm building and which will not be 

finished for a year or more can be registered as a E-LSA (Experimental 

Light Sport Aircraft) so with the 16 hour course I can do the annual 

condition inspection and all repairs?  Or am I doomed for E-AB 

(Experimental - Amateur Built where I have to have some qualified 

mechanic do the annual condition inspection?  It is my understanding 

there is a Jan. 31, 2008 cutoff for fat ultralites to register as E-LSA, 

but does this also apply to an approved 51% kit under construction?  

Very confusing rules, at least to me.  Thanks for any clairification you 

can give.  Robert Schoenberger  701

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: E-LSA registration

Hi Robert,



The Experimental AB route to signing off inspections is even easier 

than the E-LSA -- so long as you built the majority of the 

plane.  You need to request a "Repairman's Certificate" for your 

plane.  Then you can sign it all off.  Only the person who built the 

plane can get this certificate.



Paul

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At 06:51 AM 7/9/2007, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Is there any way the 701 kit which I'm building and which will not 

be finished for a year or more can be registered as a E-LSA 

(Experimental Light Sport Aircraft) so with the 16 hour course I can 

do the annual condition inspection and all repairs?  Or am I doomed 

for E-AB (Experimental - Amateur Built where I have to have some 

qualified mechanic do the annual condition inspection?  It is my 

understanding there is a Jan. 31, 2008 cutoff for fat ultralites to 

register as E-LSA, but does this also apply to an approved 51% kit 

under construction?

Very confusing rules, at least to me.  Thanks for any clairification 

you can give.  Robert Schoenberger  701

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flydad57(at)neo.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: E-LSA registration

Robert,



    As I understand it, you may have a choice.  But don't consider yourself 

"doomed".



    First, if you have built 51% of your airplane, and it qualifies to be 

registered as Experimental-Amateur Built, then YOU can do ALL of the 

maintenance on it, including the annual condition inspection.  (As long as 

you apply for, and are granted, the Repairman's Certificate.)  No further 

course need be taken.  You are good to go.  You will probably have a 40 hour 

test flight period.



    Your situation is not effected by the Jan. 1, 2008 cutoff.  That's for 

those utilizing the " training exemption" for their 2-seat ultralights.



  YOU can register your 701 as E-LSA whenever you're ready.  You will 

probably be assigned a 5 hour flyoff period since it is an approved kit. 

But then, as you have said, you will have to take the 16-hour course to do 

the annual condition inspection on the aircraft.  This course, however, can 

be transferred to any E-LSA or S-LSA which you might own in the future.



Hope this helps.  I got this info very recently, directly from the 

Cincinnati FAA folks.  Build on and good luck!



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth, Ohio

N657RT, Res.

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rjscep(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: E-LSA registration

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		   I am in same catagory and I plan to register my 701

 at Oshkosh. I will reserve a number and that will 

 get me in the door(hopefully  Don Not archive

--- Robert Schoenberger <hrs1(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:
	




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 Schoenberger <hrs1(at)frontiernet.net>

 

 Is there any way the 701 kit which I'm building and

 which will not be 

 finished for a year or more can be registered as a

 E-LSA (Experimental 

 Light Sport Aircraft) so with the 16 hour course I

 can do the annual 

 condition inspection and all repairs?  Or am I

 doomed for E-AB 

 (Experimental - Amateur Built where I have to have

 some qualified 

 mechanic do the annual condition inspection?  It is

 my understanding 

 there is a Jan. 31, 2008 cutoff for fat ultralites

 to register as E-LSA, 

 but does this also apply to an approved 51% kit

 under construction?  

 Very confusing rules, at least to me.  Thanks for

 any clairification you 

 can give.  Robert Schoenberger  701

 



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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: E-LSA registration

No, after the January 31, 2008 deadline, your Zenith kit plane under 

construction can not be registered as an E-LSA. As far as I know, Zenith 

does not offer any approved E-LSA kits. The 51% rule only applies to 

E-AB, it has nothing to do with E-LSA.



But all is not lost. The primary builder of an amateur built aircraft 

can apply for the amateur built repairman certificate for that aircraft 

and then be qualified to sign off the annual condition inspections. You 

will need to apply for the repairman certificate at an FAA FSDO after 

you receive the airworthiness certificate. No training course is 

required. It is only good for that particular person and that particular 

aircraft.



As far as maintenance and annual inspections are concerned, the only 

difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who can sign off the annual 

inspection. The owner can perform all maintenance and repairs on either 

of these types of aircraft. A repairman certificate is only required to 

sign off the annual, it is not required for performing maintenance or 

repairs.



Who can sign off the annual:



E-LSA: an A&P mechanic, an LSA repairman with a maintenance rating (120 

hour course) or the owner if he is an LSA repairman with an inspection 

rating (16 hour course).



E-AB: an A&P mechanic or the holder of the amateur built repairman 

certificate for that airplane.



Robert Schoenberger wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <hrs1(at)frontiernet.net>

 

 Is there any way the 701 kit which I'm building and which will not be 

 finished for a year or more can be registered as a E-LSA (Experimental 

 Light Sport Aircraft) so with the 16 hour course I can do the annual 

 condition inspection and all repairs?  Or am I doomed for E-AB 

 (Experimental - Amateur Built where I have to have some qualified 

 mechanic do the annual condition inspection?  It is my understanding 

 there is a Jan. 31, 2008 cutoff for fat ultralites to register as E-LSA, 

 but does this also apply to an approved 51% kit under construction?  

 Very confusing rules, at least to me.  Thanks for any clairification you 

 can give.  Robert Schoenberger  701


	


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Zenith 601XL N61BM

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