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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

Has anyone tried to do a sliding canopy on a 601XL yet? I think it would be a neat idea.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

It has been done. There is at least one picture of a sliding canopy 601 on the Zenith site.
cbaron66 wrote:
Has anyone tried to do a sliding canopy on a 601XL yet? I think it would be a neat idea.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

As owner of a sliding canopy, I say "beware".
They are difficult to keep sliding easily. Any distortion of the airframe,
say in an incident, and they don't slide at all. Even a small situation
causing dust/sand to get in the tracks jams them.
Spitfire pilots always opened the canopy before landing. I wish I had.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

I was considering purchasing one that was for sale in Vancouver, WA. The airplane was very well built. While I liked the idea of a fixed windscreen, the canopy itself was a little fragile. The latching mechanism was hard to latch and not foolproof. The biggest reason I walked away was that the additional support structure added a lot of weight. There was a lot more metal required to make it all work.

Pictures attached.

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Bob Tezyk
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Midlothian, TX


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

This is the first built version of what I am thinking about that I have seen
yet. A three point support is the only way to go here I think. I believe
it would also prevent the jamming that was mentioned before.
Does anyone have any plans for this sort of design?
I was thinking about a recessed rear attachment point, but I had not figured
out how to keep water out of the fuselage yet. The external one would be
very easy to build and I could work up a design that keeps it flush with the
plane rather than raised as shown.
All ideas are wanted and appreciated.
Thanks, Matt
XLVair

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

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...just do not forget that the upper fuselage aft of the cockpit is substantially wider than the forward end of the canopy/instrument panel...

Matt Stecher <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt Stecher"

This is the first built version of what I am thinking about that I have seen
yet. A three point support is the only way to go here I think. I believe
it would also prevent the jamming that was mentioned before.
Does anyone have any plans for this sort of design?
I was thinking about a recessed rear attachment point, but I had not figured
out how to keep water out of the fuselage yet. The external one would be
very easy to build and I could work up a design that keeps it flush with the
plane rather than raised as shown.
All ideas are wanted and appreciated.
Thanks, Matt
XLVair

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

I don't see anything wrong with more "hoop's" going from the left side to
the rt. side and abrace tieing them in end to end. I can't stand the shakie,
shake, every time you open or close Joe N101HD 601 XL
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

It would seem fairly simple to design a sliding canopy that would raise up a few inches at the front and then slide to the rear.

From my own design work I know that the devil is always in the details and I have not thought this completely through, but I think I will give this allot of thought.

I have awhile before I get to that stage, so I have some time and will keep my eyes open for other sliding designs.

Take care,
Matt
XLVair
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: How about a sliding canopy? Reply with quote

I asked the question of venturay and got a picture of one of their test plane with it on they say is flying. can;t find the attachmnet now so maybe contact them.

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