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eldenej(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Documenting construction

I am neaarly ready to begin. The 601 quick-build is here, as is a new 3300. I have acquired the various tools needed, and have been reading widely (including this list, for the last four or so months). My wife and I have completed the rudder workshop.

   

  Documenting the construction process seems obviously necessary, and I have been impressed by the several websites that builders have created. But I've little sense as to how you builders have gone about this task of leaving a trail. Ideas on how this is being accomplished would be very welcome.

   

  Thanks,

   

  Elden Jacobson



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lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Documenting construction

Welcome, Elden...and congratulations!



For those of us who don't have prior experience setting up websites (or those of us who do, but would rather spend our time building), a great solution is www.kitlog.com.  If you would like to see the format, check out www.mykitlog.com/lwinger for my entries.  



Each entry can include up to 3 pictures, and it is easy for others to search by category or date.  It takes about 5 minutes to install and set-up, and the price is right at $49.95.  That gives you the program on your computer and a weblog (included in the price).  Best of all, it was recently purchased by Matronics, and Matt has already made some improvements in what was already a very solid program.



Good luck on your building adventure.

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sky_ranger161

Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 91

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: Documenting construction

Hi Eldon,

   

  Congrats on your decision to build! Sounds like you've done your homework and are ready to go.

   

  I second Larry's recommendation about Kitlog. I've been using it since the beginning of my build, and I've found it to be easy to use, very stable, and the price is right. The big plus for me is the ability to upload my completed logs to www.mykitlog.com and share it with others. You can also easily generate reports - a great feature. Like Larry, I have the knowledge and ability to publish my own site, but would rather spend that time in my garage drilling holes in sheet metal. Go figure.

   

  Whatever method you choose, enjoy your build.

   

  Debo Cox

  XL/Corvair

  Nags Head, NC

   

  If you're curious, you can check mine out at: www.mykitlog.com/debo

   

  do not archive



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cj.tremblay(at)videotron.
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Documenting construction

Hi Elden,  

   

I think documentation has to be set differently depending of kind of project. I build my aircraft from plan, this kind of project needed more documentation, more search, more tool, more skill, more detailed photography than a quick-build project. I document the project for the inspection process and for community of builders. The other reason is the CH640 never has been build (completed) from plan before. Another advantage is more easy for other builder to help me when they have access to my project documentation.    

Last factor is the computer habit of the builder itself. Never forgot documentation is for support the building process, not the goal itself, trace your own limits base on your needs.  

Christian Tremblay  

A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan  

http://www.zodiac640.com/  

  

         

  

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I am neaarly ready to begin. The 601 quick-build is here, as is a new 3300. I have acquired the various tools needed, and have been reading widely (including this list, for the last four or so months). My wife and I have completed the rudder workshop.  

    

   

    

Documenting the construction process seems obviously necessary, and I have been impressed by the several websites that builders have created. But I've little sense as to how you builders have gone about this task of leaving a trail. Ideas on how this is being accomplished would be very welcome.  

    

   

    

Thanks,  

    

   

    

Elden Jacobson  

  

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Documenting construction

From what I understand, the primary purpose of the documentation (as far as the FAA in concerned) is to prove you built the plane.



I've done mine by taking lots of photos and almost all are either up on my website or will be. Ill probably pull several and print them to have on hand for the AW inspection. In addition to photos there are a bunch of notes I've made on the plans and the construction manual which I will have one hand.



I started with Kitlog but was pretty bad about remembering to make the entries. To the point where catching up would have been damn near impossible.



But I will say if you are going to keep a full log Kit log is the way to go.

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lo2u

Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 46
Location: Upstate New York

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: Documenting construction

George Race who is a member of this site also has  log program which is the one I use. I also have Kitlog Pro but I find George's  program easier for me. While I did some beta for him I have no financial  interest in his program or any other. 

  

 http://www.mykitairplane.com/

  

 You might want to e-mail him as well: mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com (mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com)

  

 Best and do keep good records with photos no matter  what if any program you use..

  

 Ron Culver

  

  

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john.marzulli(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: Documenting construction

I decided on a lower tech, but slightly less flexible approach: A blog. ( http://701builder.blogspot.com/ )



Blogger is free, and very easy to use. Everything is done through a webpage and thus can be accessed at almost any computer. Blogger lets me assign "tags" to each entry if I want, and then those tags can be searched. For example you can view only those pages tagged "wings". 



For photos Blogger ties into Picasa web galleries and lets you store up to 1GB of photos.



Due to the lack of report generation, I keep a rolling calculation at the end of each entry. When I make a new entry I simply copy the last one and increment my hours. 



A side benefit of using Blogger has been it's ownership by Google, IE I have received a large number of emails from people who have found my website by searching for terms included in posts. In the end this last helped me find other builders in the area that are not on this list. 



Good luck!

-John



On 7/23/07, Ron Culver <rculver(at)nycap.rr.com (rculver(at)nycap.rr.com)> wrote:[quote]        George Race who is a member of this site also has  log program which is the one I use. I also have Kitlog Pro but I find George's  program easier for me. While I did some beta for him I have no financial  interest in his program or any other. 

  

 http://www.mykitairplane.com/

  

 You might want to e-mail him as well: mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com (mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com)

   

 Best and do keep good records with photos no matter  what if any program you use..

  

 Ron Culver

  

  

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rpf(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Documenting construction

I built my 601xl from the standard kit I wasn't concerned on how many hours 

it took so I didn't keep track.  I did take many photo's and at the time of 

the inspection I loaded them on a CD incase the inspector wanted to view 

them.  He looked at a few of them (on my laptop), did his inspection, and 

issued me an airworthy certificate.



Randy Ferri

601xl/Jabiru 3300

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