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runwayrex(at)juno.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: Question on Rivets for windshield installation

I too followed the manual on installation. When I had to drill out each rivet to replace the windshield the first time, I replaced the rivets with screws instead. I'm not sure, but they may have been called rivnuts. A small insert went into the material first and then the countersunk screw with a big countersunk washer under it distributes the load. I've changed the windshield one more time since then and the job was a piece of cake. Same story for the rivets on the doors. I used stainless steel screws for all. 

Rex in Michigan

Model 3, 912, 80 HP

Warpdrive

1999 completion 

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John,

My fox is also 92 vintage. I used the aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrill

thinking that the steel would pull too hard and cause cracking.



John Oakley



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john(at)leptron.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: Question on Rivets for windshield installation

Rex,  

You are right the rivnuts are the best way to attach..  

   

John Oakley  

         

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rexster

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I too followed the manual on installation. When I had to drill out each rivet to replace the windshield the first time, I replaced the rivets with screws instead. I'm not sure, but they may have been called rivnuts. A small insert went into the material first and then the countersunk screw with a big countersunk washer under it distributes the load. I've changed the windshield one more time since then and the job was a piece of cake. Same story for the rivets on the doors. I used stainless steel screws for all.  

Rex in Michigan

 Model 3, 912, 80 HP

 Warpdrive

 1999 completion  



 

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 John,

 My fox is also 92 vintage. I used the aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrill

 thinking that the steel would pull too hard and cause cracking.

 

 John Oakley

 

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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Question on Rivets for windshield installation

When the Lexan went on, I used stainless truss head sheet metal screws. One or two have needed re-tightening over time but otherwise no problems. Gotta be alot easier than drilling out pop-rivets come replacement time.



Rexster <runwayrex(at)juno.com> wrote:  [quote]  I too followed the manual on installation. When I had to drill out each rivet to replace the windshield the first time, I replaced the rivets with screws instead. I'm not sure, but they may have been called rivnuts. A small insert went into the material first and then the countersunk screw with a big countersunk washer under it distributes the load. I've changed the windshield one more time since then and the job was a piece of cake. Same story for the rivets on the doors. I used stainless steel screws for all.

  Rex in Michigan

Model 3, 912, 80  HP

Warpdrive

1999 completion

   



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John,

My fox is also 92 vintage. I used the aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrill

thinking that the steel would pull too hard and cause cracking.



John Oakley



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dan(at)azshowersolutions.
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Question on Rivets for windshield installation

John,

  It would be best to stay away from using rivets as you have no control over the compression they apply. I have not installed my windshield yet but I have been through A&P classes that teach using a slightly bigger hole than your fastener with possibly a flex sleeve that will seal. It's good to know that most plastics have a thermal expansion rate at about twice that of alluminum and other alloys. What that means is if your windshield is fastened tight with a rivet your windshield will expand in the sun more than your rivet and result in cracking. 

  FWIW

  Dan B,  Mesa AZ

  KF-IV , 912 S



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  You are right the rivnuts are the best way to attach..

   

  John Oakley

   

        

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  I too followed the manual on installation. When I had to drill out each rivet to replace the windshield the first time, I replaced the rivets with screws instead. I'm not sure, but they may have been called rivnuts. A small insert went into the material first and then the countersunk screw with a big countersunk washer under it distributes the load. I've changed the  windshield one more time since then and the job was a piece of cake. Same story for the rivets on the doors. I used stainless steel screws for all.

  Rex in Michigan

Model 3, 912, 80 HP

Warpdrive

1999 completion

  



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John,

My fox is also 92 vintage. I used the aluminum rivets with aluminum mandrill

thinking that the steel would pull too hard and cause cracking.



John Oakley



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