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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

Greetings,
I have lurked in the AeroElectric list for a while and I am coming to point in my project where I am going to be planning and building my electrical system. I am looking at 12 circuit breakers (spare the groans) in a 3 x 4 configuration.
Would anyone be willing to send a photo or many photos of how would one go about making a copper bus bar for a configuration like that where the breakers are not inline?
Also, what are you doing to insulate the bus bar against accidental contact with a ground?
Thank you,


Scott R. Shook
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N696JS (Reserved)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

Scott,
The answers you look for are the same reasons folks don't use that system.
But: Use 3 cappoer bars and tie them together on the ends with another copper strip. You can put "liquid Electrical Tape" on the ends to try and keep it all safe. Most bus bars have no protection, at least the ones I have seen. I am sure your idea will work and you will fly successfully for years.
Build on, Mike

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

I don't know if this will work for anyone but...

Lancair Avionics will sell "pre-drilled" copper buss bars that are setup on a specific spacing for Klixon breakers. I actually have some and won't be using them. They come in two lengths with two different centers.

I just pulled mine and the long bars (about 8-9 inches) are on approx .75" centers... The short bars are about 7" long and on drilled on 1.1" centers (these are approx centers and I just grabbed my dial calipers and eyeballed them. The wider centers are used to connect the horizontal rows, vertically and to the main wires coming to the busses. The narrower centers are used to connect the breakers together in any specific row.

Here are some pictures that I shot quick

http://www.highrf.com/albums/Legacy-Panel/DSCN1977.sized.jpg - the buss bars

http://www.highrf.com/albums/Legacy-Panel/DSCN1978.sized.jpg - another of the bars

http://www.highrf.com/albums/Legacy-Panel/DSCN1979.sized.jpg - the spacing that they fit

Hope this helps. I don't remember those strips being that expensive, but it's been awhile since I got these.

Alan


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Scott,
The answers you look for are the same reasons folks don't use that system.
But: Use 3 cappoer bars and tie them together on the ends with another copper strip. You can put "liquid Electrical Tape" on the ends to try and keep it all safe. Most bus bars have no protection, at least the ones I have seen. I am sure your idea will work and you will fly successfully for years.
Build on, Mike

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

At 02:27 PM 8/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:

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Greetings,

I have lurked in the AeroElectric list for a while and I am coming to
point in my project where I am going to be planning and building my
electrical system. I am looking at 12 circuit breakers (spare the groans)
in a 3 x 4 configuration.

Would anyone be willing to send a photo or many photos of how would one go
about making a copper bus bar for a configuration like that where the
breakers are not inline?

See:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Breakers/Breaker_Panel_Busing_0.jpg
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Breakers/Breaker_Panel_Busing_1.jpg
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Breakers/Breaker_Panel_Busing_2.jpg

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Also, what are you doing to insulate the bus bar against accidental
contact with a ground?

Not necessary. There should be nothing in vicinity capable
of producing the ground. All bus bars on light aircraft
are essentially waving in the breeze behind the breaker
panel.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

There are some diagrams on spacing you may find useful in the Tony Bingelis book Sportplane Construction Techniques available from EAA.

On 8/7/07, Scott R. Shook <sshook(at)cox.net (sshook(at)cox.net)> wrote:[quote]
Greetings,
I have lurked in the AeroElectric list for a while and I am coming to point in my project where I am going to be planning and building my electrical system. I am looking at 12 circuit breakers (spare the groans) in a 3 x 4 configuration.
Would anyone be willing to send a photo or many photos of how would one go about making a copper bus bar for a configuration like that where the breakers are not inline?
Also, what are you doing to insulate the bus bar against accidental contact with a ground?
Thank you,


Scott R. Shook
RV-7A (Building)
N696JS (Reserved)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Circuit Breaker Bus Bar Reply with quote

Scott,
If you haven't already considered it, a 20 slot fuse block is easier and cheaper to setup than breakers. Use a breaker for the alternator and main buss, but as Bob would say, you can only reset those expensive critters once - after that you already have a problem. Install the fuse block where it's accessible to easily change the fuses but not ugly and you'll have more panel space for other goodies. You'll also have hundreds of dollars left over from not buying breakers.
If you are dead set on cb's I think the list has already donated some nice examples.
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