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Richard Pike
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: Herding geese and cats |
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They can mess up more than that. Was chasing a flock of geese years ago in the Hummer, was slightly below and behind, when one of them got freaked and demonstrated a most unexpected "evasive manuever." He apparently pulled in one wing and turned into a sort of cannonball maple leaf, doing a snap/twirl spin to fall out of the V formation. Seconds later, another one did the same thing. Picturing what that would have done to my leading edge tube (or my bod) got me flying a bit higher.
Richard Pike
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: Herding geese and cats |
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Birds can be a big problem, back in the day I was flying for Mesa airlines was lined up on final at Lake Havasu when I hit a bird, left a streak from the bottom part all the way to the top of the windshield. Another time was solo flying low along the Colorado right north of Yuma in a student's Sundowner when I spooked Canada Geese, a great bunch of them I pulled up hard and one hit the strongest parts of the airplane the nose wheel trunnion, I heard the thud and wondered about the damage, there was none, there was blood and some feathers. It ain't fun.
Ron (Arizona)
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They can mess up more than that. Was chasing a flock of geese years ago in the Hummer, was slightly below and behind, when one of them got freaked and demonstrated a most unexpected "evasive manuever." He apparently pulled in one wing and turned into a sort of cannonball maple leaf, doing a snap/twirl spin to fall out of the V formation. Seconds later, another one did the same thing. Picturing what that would have done to my leading edge tube (or my bod) got me flying a bit higher.
Richard Pike
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JetPilot
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Herding geese and cats |
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Herding Geese and cats sounds like great fun !! I herd birds whenever I get the chance  I dont get to worried about bird strikes in the Kolb because of the slow speeds involved. If you are flying at 60 MPH, you only have 1/4 the impact energy as you do in a general aviation airplane at 120 MPH.
As far as comparing bird strikes to a jet, its not even in the same league, there is no comparison. Hitting a bird at 250 knots in a jet has 20 times the energy as hitting one at 60 MPH in a Kolb, so saying " look at what that bird did to that jet " is just kind of stupid when talking about slow flying Kolbs. Im not saying go out and hit a bird, but I am saying lets keep it real here, there is no comparison.
Second thing is, high speeds is what birds have a problem avoiding. Birds are very good at getting out of the way at 60 MPH of a Kolb, they have a much harder time at 120 MPH of general aviation airplanes, and evolution never gave them the instinct of how to get out of the way at 280 MPH jet speeds. I see it and thier reactions all the time.
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jb92563
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| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: Herding geese and cats |
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In a message dated 8/9/2007 4:04:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jb92563(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Its more fun to fly WITH them then AT them anyway but I can imagine that if an 8lb goose takes a quick wrong turn and ends up in your lap at 10mph "run down" to 120mph "coming right at you"
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Hate to be a wet blanket, but I think it's illegal to herd or otherwise harrass ANY wild game with any vehicle.
Howard Shackleford
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