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davevanlanen(at)sbcglobal
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

I have a question regarding the steel support beams for building the 601 XL.

I purchased two 4' X 2" X 2" steel beams like we used in the workshop for

the rudder, thinking that was all I would need.  But when I looked ahead in

the photo assembly guide, I noticed that they specify six 5' X 2" X 2" beams

for building the wings.  I can get these at a sheet metal shop, but it would

cost me at least $70.  For those of you who are building or have completed a

601 XL - should I just suck it up and spend the money to get them?  Are they

necessary for properly jigging the components?  Or are there other cheaper

options I can use?  I have not been able to find anything at the local

hardware or lumber outlets.  I thought about using wood, but it is not

dimensionally stable.



Thanks in advance,

Dave Van Lanen

601 XL - stabilizer

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cgalley(at)qcbc.org
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Many airplanes have been built on wood beams and tables. Wood is fairly 

stable if you don't take several heating and cooling seasons to build. But 

even then I don't think it will make much difference.

Cy Galley - Chair,

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hrs1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

I got 3" x 3" square steel tubes from a metal surplus warehouse (local). 

The cost was nominal, and they were cut from longer lengths.  However, they 

are extremely heavy and not pleasant to move around.  Check the archives on 

this - I think that some have used PVC pipe.  Robert Schoenberger 701 55%



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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Hi Dave,



I use ordinary 2x4 lumber instead of the steel beams.  I think they 

are a vast improvement since it is easy to drive screws into them to 

attach them to the wood bench or to attach blocks for keeping your 

work in place instead of depending on a balancing act.



My bench has a wood top, and I mounted around 5 2x4s across it.  They 

are leveled and shimmed to form a nice flat top surface.   I often 

lay 1x2s or 2x2s across these 2x4's to support things like wings and 

keep them from rolling around.



Good luck,



Paul

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		  I have a question regarding the steel support beams for building the 601 XL.

I purchased two 4' X 2" X 2" steel beams like we used in the workshop for

the rudder, thinking that was all I would need.  But when I looked ahead in

the photo assembly guide, I noticed that they specify six 5' X 2" X 2" beams

for building the wings.  I can get these at a sheet metal shop, but it would

cost me at least $70.  For those of you who are building or have completed a

601 XL - should I just suck it up and spend the money to get them?  Are they

necessary for properly jigging the components?  Or are there other cheaper

options I can use?  I have not been able to find anything at the local

hardware or lumber outlets.  I thought about using wood, but it is not

dimensionally stable.



Thanks in advance,

Dave Van Lanen

601 XL - stabilizer


	


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japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Dave, consider this. What if you build with wood and spirit level and when your done the plane doesn't all fit together ? What did you save ?  Some things should be the very best possible even (especially) on a home made airplane. I recommend you go steel and digital level if you want no surprises, FWIW, Bill  

 

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Larry McFarland

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Location: East Moline, Illinois

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Dave,

Try the 2-inch aluminum square tube in the hardware section of Lowe's or 

Farm and Fleet stores.

This stuff is dimensionally good and not terribly expensive.



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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Dave VanLanen wrote:



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I have a question regarding the steel support beams for building the 601 XL.

I purchased two 4' X 2" X 2" steel beams like we used in the workshop for

the rudder, thinking that was all I would need.  But when I looked ahead in

the photo assembly guide, I noticed that they specify six 5' X 2" X 2" beams

for building the wings.  I can get these at a sheet metal shop, but it would

cost me at least $70.  For those of you who are building or have completed a

601 XL - should I just suck it up and spend the money to get them?  Are they

necessary for properly jigging the components?  Or are there other cheaper

options I can use?  I have not been able to find anything at the local

hardware or lumber outlets.  I thought about using wood, but it is not

dimensionally stable.



Thanks in advance,

Dave Van Lanen

601 XL - stabilizer

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PAULROD36(at)msn.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Dave, people have used everything from PVC pipes to straight wooden 2x2's, and most everything in between. The idea is to have some sort of "true" plane for a reference as you build the wing. The only real use for something laying on the table and under the wing, as far as I can see, is to keep the clecos from causing damage to the skin as you work.



Paul Rodriguez

601XL/Corvair

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

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Trainnut01(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: 601 XL - 2 X 2 Steel Beams

Sections of plastic gutter down spout work great. Cheap. Aircraft tool  aisle 

at Home Depot.

Carroll Jernigan

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