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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Anyone have any idea which one this is. It is obviously not a Shrike.

Thanks,

Bert


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hi Bert,

I've sent the seller a question, asking what the Serial Number is.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Me too, maybe we will get a reply.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hummmm....1958 Shrike, two bad engines, bent wing...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Looks like a 560A to me. It is a 560A, E or a 680. Notice it has what appears to be a cowl flap on the LH engine nacelle?? jb


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Thats the JATO outlet...




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

JB;

My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much different than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks like a small possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl door. My 560E does not have either one of these. Also curious as to what the item is directly to the rear the cockpit door handle on the fuselage?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

I got a response from the seller, he/she said that all they knew is that it was a 1958 Shrike.... and that it needed alot of work. They did promise to get back to me with more info shortly. As soon as I get that I'll let you know.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

In a message dated 21-Aug-07 10:32:34 Pacific Daylight Time, DonGirod(at)bellsouth.net writes:
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My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much different than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks like a small possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl door. My 560E does not have either one of these. Also curious as to what the item is directly to the rear the cockpit door handle on the fuselage?

Don, All,

Just to throw this into a spin ... at the Nashville TCFG Fly-In (1997 I think) Gary Gadberry presented a slide show on the AirCenter Shrike Conversions.

Just to stump the experts, he showed what turned out to be an AC-500, but with so many mods, it was difficult to know that right away.

The AC-500 in his show was camouflaged by a Shrike nose, eyebrow windows, front door, 3 blade props, square rudder cap and perhaps tail stinger. (It also had a round nose tire, but it appears to have since been replaced with a semi-square one.)

I wonder if this is that plane?

The gizmo on the nacelle may be an ice detection light.

The doo-dad aft of the door frame may be a logo plaque.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

A little odd that it's listed as a battery operated radio controlled aircraft. Maybe that explains the cowling? Good news is that it's Almost Ready to Fly!

A couple pieces of balsa and a new shrink covering should fix that wind damage right up.

Bet the batteries will be expensive.

Caveat emptor.......
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hello All,

I was on the verge of suggesting exactly what our excellent Wing Commander came up with - that the Commander in question was a Model 500, Serial Number 639, when the eBay seller sent me an email confirming that the Commander being offered is indeed this aircraft.

I was also going to suggest the nacelle 'gizmo' was an ice detection light.

Anyway, this is a unique Model 500, for which I have traced the following modifications:

Lycoming IO-540-A1A5 turbocharged engines, with Hartzell HC-A3VK-2B/7636D 3-blade props (STC SA257CE)
Engines installed in March 1964, STC issued July 1964, through Riley Aeronautics Corp., in Fort Lauderdale.

mtow increased to 6,500lb from 6,000lb (STC SA377SO) - Sep67

'Shrike' tail cone assembly (STC SA3476WE) - Jun95
'Shrike' vertical tip assembly (STC SA3492WE) - Jun95
Miller nose cone (STC SA 585SW) - Jul95
Cockpit overhead windows (STC SA3516WE) - Jul95

I've found no record of when the front cabin door was installed though.

Last known owner:
D Wayne Durham, of Easley, SC (which ties-in with the Email address on eBay, and its location).

Best Regards,
Barry

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

In a message dated 21-Aug-07 12:39:36 Pacific Daylight Time, barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk writes:
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I was also going to suggest the nacelle 'gizmo' was an ice detection light.


That makes me feel a wee bit more secure, Sir Barry!  

Thanks for the data on this very unique airplane. Someone should really contact the eBay seller and have them clean up their ad.

Sir Barry, would you consent to having the details in your post uploaded to the eBay seller?

For the sake of accuracy -- not to mention the value should go up -- I think this information should appear on eBay.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hi Keith,

I have emailed Mr Durham again and suggested his Commander should not be advertised as a "1958 shrike aero commander", but a "1958 Model 500 Aero Commander, incorporating some 'Shrike' mods" or similar.

It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as N6226B since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).

I also suggested he list the mods I know about (there may be others I'm not aware of) in his 'Description'.

I also asked:
If the logs he has indicate when the front cabin door was installed (if he has any logs, of course).
If he has been given any quotes for getting the aircraft repaired and airworthy.

I noticed in its history (I have 76 records) that it was damaged on July 26th 1996 at Lafayette-Barwick Airport, Georgia.
Turns out it was struck by another Commander 500 that had suffered a failed engine-driven hydraulic pump during taxi out.
Pressure was therefore lost as a right hand turn was in progress and although an attempt was made to center the nosewheel and stop the aircraft using the emergency hand-operated pump, the attempt failed and the Commander parked next to it was struck.
Was repaired on August 14th 1996.

I have no data on the wind damage.

Very Best Regards,
Barry

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:23:31 Pacific Daylight Time, barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk writes:
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It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as N6226B since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).


Thanks for sending the note to the eBay seller.

"Leave it to a Brit to teach us our own history." ... Spaulding Gray

Not to worry about the birthday card.

Remember we're - GMT here in the Colonies: it's only 2007, so we won't expect 40th birthday wishes until then.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hi Keith,

The date 'error' was simply a test to see if anyone reads my postings.
(Gosh, that tongue really hurts against my cheek ..... and goodness me, why does my face look so red?)

Streuth! I know time flies, but to think it was next year already .......... unforgivable.

Now, where are my tablets.

Best Regards,
Barry
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Hi Keith,

OK - so you spotted the year error. It's 2007, not 2008.

But, I caught you out - it will be its 50th next year, not 40th.

So, I was right it the first place, I did forget its 40th birthday. Won't forget its 50th though Wink

Now, where's my other tablets.

Best Regards,
Barry
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:41:02 Pacific Daylight Time, barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk writes:
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Now, where's my other tablets.

On top of Mount Sinai, I believe, Sir!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Contacted the guy selling the plane. He is adamant it is a SHRIKE.

Guess there is no arguing with someone who doesn't know what they do not know.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY Reply with quote

Bert,

Definately a rare & interesting bird, but not a shrike.
Are those cowl flaps, maybe due to the addition of the Rayjays...?

Can anyone get better pics & post here?

Brent - N224HA

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