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somewhat off topic - Purchasing an incomplete homebuilt

 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: somewhat off topic - Purchasing an incomplete homebuilt Reply with quote

I looked at CH601HD project, recently advertised here, and have a couple
of questions about purchasing a work in progress:

1 - Is it possible to be the A&P for a purchased project? I seem to
recall that this honor can be bestowed on the original builder and I
wonder if it is applicable to someone who finishes a project.

2 - What must be done to satisfy the FAA that you meet the 51% rule?

Thx

Bob Percival
bob(at)frontrange-pc.com
CH701 scratch builder - glacial pace


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: somewhat off topic - Purchasing an incomplete homebuilt Reply with quote

As far as the 51% rule is concerned, you only have to accomplish 51% of the various tasks needed to build the airplane, you don't have to actually build 51% of the airplane. For instance, if you build one wing, that demonstrates the skills necessary to build a wing. Then you could hire someone to complete the other wing if you wanted to. Actually, just building the rudder would probably be enough to demonstrate the necessary sheet metal skills for the entire project. I believe the EAA website has a sort of check list for the tasks needed to satisfy the 51% rule. 
The repairman certificate can only go to one person per airplane -- the primary builder. This term is not well defined. If someone else started the project and you bought the incomplete and did the necessary work to finish it and get it airworthy, you will probably have no trouble getting the repairman certificate, especially if you are able to show compliance with the 51% rule.

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I looked at CH601HD project, recently advertised here, and have a couple of questions about purchasing a work in progress:
1 - Is it possible to be the A&P for a purchased project? I seem to recall that this honor can be  bestowed on the original builder and I wonder if it is applicable to someone who finishes a project.
2 - What must be done to satisfy the FAA that you meet the 51% rule?
Thx
Bob Percival
bob(at)frontrange-pc.com (bob(at)frontrange-pc.com)
CH701 scratch builder - glacial pace



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: somewhat off topic - Purchasing an incomplete homebuilt Reply with quote

Bob,

The following is from AC 20-27F, Section 7g:

(3) Buying an Aircraft Built From a Partially Completed Kit. If you buy an aircraft built from a partially completed kit, you should get all fabrication and assembly records, such as receipts for materials, the builder’s log, and aircraft, engine, and propeller logbooks, from the previous owner. You
should add the construction efforts of the previous amateur builders to your builder’s log to show the construction history of the kit. This information may help us to determine that your aircraft is eligible for amateur-built certification.

This AC contains other information regarding the Repairman Certificate. Also, you might want to check AC 65-23A regarding the Repairman Certificate. Hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Dan Ginty


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: somewhat off topic - Purchasing an incomplete homebuilt Reply with quote

Just a small note of correction: If the plane/parts meet the qualifications, you might get a repairmans certificate. Unless you complete the necessary schooling and or expeariance and pass all the written, oral and practical tests, you will never be an A&P Cool

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