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s.vestuti(at)virgin.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

Hi, does any one know if the Root of the XS wing is reinforced at the leading edge in a similar manner to the trailing edge for standing on? 



steve G-CEBV #573

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bill.sue(at)orcon.net.nz
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

No it is not!



I used to sit on mine and lean back to get in as this was a very easy 

way of entry.



The deflection of the skin caused the filler and paint to crack along 

the front of the spar, both port and stbd wings. I talked to Andy and he 

advised it was more heavily skinned in that area but not supported by 

ribs to make it suitable for sitting on.

The repair was to refill and paint



Mono XS

914 Airmaster

600hrs



Sue & Bill



steve v wrote:

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 Hi, does any one know if the Root of the XS wing is reinforced at the leading edge in a similar manner to the trailing edge for standing on? 



 steve G-CEBV #573

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s.vestuti(at)virgin.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:10 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

Well  thats exactly how i get in - by sitting on the leading edge and swinging in, untill i took a 16 stone passenger down the the scilly isles last monday and noticed the section between the leading edge and the spar flexing conciderably with his weight on there,

thanks bill and sue - looks like ill stick to the way its meant to be.



steve vestuti G-CEBV #573

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jeff(at)rmmm.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

Is there another way to get in? I always sit on the wing and throw my 

feet in.

Jeff R.

A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 84 hours and climbing slowly.

On Aug 29, 2007, at 3:09 AM, steve v wrote:



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 Well  thats exactly how i get in - by sitting on the leading edge and 

 swinging in, untill i took a 16 stone passenger down the the scilly 

 isles last monday and noticed the section between the leading edge and 

 the spar flexing conciderably with his weight on there,

 thanks bill and sue - looks like ill stick to the way its meant to be.



 steve vestuti G-CEBV #573

 Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org

DuaneFamly(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  s.vestuti(at)virgin.net writes:

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		  a 16    stone passenger 	


 

 For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100  kilos.

  

 Do Not Archive   

 Mike Duane  A207A

Redding, California

XS Conventional Gear

Jabiru 3300  

Sensenich R64Z N

Ground Adjustable  Prop





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Gary.Leinberger(at)miller
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

You mean a proper sized person?

 

 

Gary Leinberger

 



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In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

s.vestuti(at)virgin.net writes:



	a 16 stone passenger 



For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100

kilos.

 

Do Not Archive 

 

Mike Duane A207A

Redding, California

XS Conventional Gear

Jabiru 3300 

Sensenich R64Z N

Ground Adjustable Prop



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jodel(at)nildram.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

It might be “standard” for the left side of the pond but on this side it would qualify as a “fat Bast/*d” by 40lbs+!  

   

Simon        

  

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 Sent: 29 August 2007 17:58

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: XS Wing Query  

  

   

You mean a proper sized person?  

   

   

Gary Leinberger  

   

       

  

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In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, s.vestuti(at)virgin.net writes:  

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a 16 stone passenger   	
  

    

For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100 kilos.  

    

   

    

Do Not Archive     

   

    

Mike Duane A207A

 Redding, California

 XS Conventional Gear

 Jabiru 3300 

 Sensenich R64Z N

 Ground Adjustable Prop  

  

  



 

         

  

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Gary.Leinberger(at)miller
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

We refer to it as manly - which I realize on your side of  the pond is characterized by Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery - we like Rambo -  at least there is more action.

  

 gl

 (Tongue firmly in cheek)



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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:22 PM

To:  europa-list(at)matronics.com

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It might be “standard”  for the left side of the pond but on this side it would qualify as a “fat  Bast/*d” by 40lbs+! 

  

Simon    

 

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Sent: 29 August 2007 17:58

To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: XS Wing  Query

 

  

You mean a proper  sized person? 

  

  

Gary  Leinberger 

  

    

 

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For the rest of the  world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100  kilos.

  

 

  

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Mike  Duane A207A

Redding,  California

XS Conventional  Gear

Jabiru 3300 

Sensenich R64Z N

Ground Adjustable  Prop



 

    

 

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58  AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:



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		   I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.


	


	What happens next Jeff?



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

He has to lift his body in!

That's the way I did it when Thomas Scherer took me flying a few weeks 

after my big mistake. (not accepting a controlled crash)

I had lost 35lbs from a fitish 170 lbs so there wasn't too much to lift.



Fred Klein wrote:

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 On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58  AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:

 

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     What happens next Jeff?

 

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jeff(at)rmmm.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

That depends on my wife's mood ;•0



Do not archive this... Please



Jeff

On Aug 29, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Fred Klein wrote:



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 On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58  AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:



> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.



 	What happens next Jeff?



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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

Jeff,



I appreciate your sense of humor...but, my question was a serious one. 

With the trigear, do you still end up sitting on top of the head rest 

while entering/exiting, or are other gymnastics involved?



Fred



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jeff(at)rmmm.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

Sorry Fred, I couldn't resist the fun. Yes I sit on the headrest and 

slid in. When I saw this thread I wondered if someone had a better way 

but I'm following the lead of most tri-flyers. Sit on the wing, lift 

the but to the headrest then slid in. If there is a better way I'm all 

ears.

Best Regards,

Jeff R.

A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 90 hours and climbing slowly.

On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Fred Klein wrote:

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 Jeff,

 I appreciate your sense of humor...but, my question was a serious one. 

 With the trigear, do you still end up sitting on top of the head rest 

 while entering/exiting, or are other gymnastics involved?

 Fred

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>>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.

>>

>> 	What happens next Jeff?

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steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: XS Wing Query

I concur with Jeff's method of entering the tri gear. To get out I do find 

that gravity is a great help in that once sitting on the headrest, by 

flicking feet outside it is then possible to slide off the front edge of the 

wing but normally with one hand placed about 1 to 2 feet out board on the 

wing about mid spar. This avoids standing on the wing at any time.

It certainly was essential to reinforce the bottom of the door cill as I use 

that to lift myself in and out at times during the process.

Regards

Steve Pitt

G-SMDH

topglock(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: XS Wing Query

Fred,

I slide over the leading edge with my butt, then swing my feet in and 

push myself up and over the door sill and lower myself into the seat.  

Not necessary to sit on the headrest, if you don't want to.  My 83 year 

old dad has no trouble doing it...

Jeff - Baby Blue

310 hrs and Rough River bound, tomorrow...

Fred Klein wrote:

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 Jeff,

 I appreciate your sense of humor...but, my question was a serious one. 

 With the trigear, do you still end up sitting on top of the head rest 

 while entering/exiting, or are other gymnastics involved?

 Fred

>>

>>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.

>>

>>     What happens next Jeff?

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