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F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap

 
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jchang10



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

Guys,

While clecoing my upper fuse skin, i noticed there is a gap at the join
between F-1071 and F-1069 at the firewall. pictures below...

I am curious, if any others have this gap? all my other joins have been
tight, so not sure if this is normal or not for this area.

To seal this area, i figure i should try and glob in some proseal then
let it ooze out the gap, then wipe it flush with the skin? Thus, use
proseal like drywall mud to smooth this area out? Does that sound right?

http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4703.html
http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4704.html
http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4705.html
http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4706.html

Jae
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Tim Olson



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

I think there is a slight gap on many -10's. I don't know if you'll
need proseal or not to seal it, but you surely could do that with
no problem. One thing about that gap....don't forget to fill it well
before painting. Mine is filled nicely back by the windshield area
where you do all the glass work, but as you go towards the firewall
the gap appears. It just looks funny to have that seam 1/2 filled,
and I'm kicking myself for not filling it the entire way. I did
see a bunch of other -10's with the same cosmetic flaw, so at least
I'm in good company. Wink

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jae Chang wrote:
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Guys,

While clecoing my upper fuse skin, i noticed there is a gap at the join
between F-1071 and F-1069 at the firewall. pictures below...

I am curious, if any others have this gap? all my other joins have been
tight, so not sure if this is normal or not for this area.

To seal this area, i figure i should try and glob in some proseal then
let it ooze out the gap, then wipe it flush with the skin? Thus, use
proseal like drywall mud to smooth this area out? Does that sound right?

http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4703.html

http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4704.html

http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4705.html

http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4706.html


Jae
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

Jae,

Looks like you might have been a little over zealous smooting out the side skin.

I doesn't look like you violated any edge distance rules. I actually had to fit my skins, it was a bit to tight, only a few passes with the file to make it perfect, hard to stretch it though. Have you already riveted the upper skin to the ribs? If not you may find that they will close in after that is done.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

I have a gap also. Small, but a gap.

Rene' Felker
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

Filling the gap with micro balloons or bondo might be easier to sand and
smooth out.

Mark
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From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
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Subject: Re: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:49 -0500



I think there is a slight gap on many -10's. I don't know if you'll
need proseal or not to seal it, but you surely could do that with
no problem. One thing about that gap....don't forget to fill it well
before painting. Mine is filled nicely back by the windshield area
where you do all the glass work, but as you go towards the firewall
the gap appears. It just looks funny to have that seam 1/2 filled,
and I'm kicking myself for not filling it the entire way. I did
see a bunch of other -10's with the same cosmetic flaw, so at least
I'm in good company. Wink

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jae Chang wrote:
>
>
>Guys,
>
>While clecoing my upper fuse skin, i noticed there is a gap at the join
>between F-1071 and F-1069 at the firewall. pictures below...
>
>I am curious, if any others have this gap? all my other joins have been
>tight, so not sure if this is normal or not for this area.
>
>To seal this area, i figure i should try and glob in some proseal then let
>it ooze out the gap, then wipe it flush with the skin? Thus, use proseal
>like drywall mud to smooth this area out? Does that sound right?
>
>http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4703.html
>
>http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4704.html
>
>http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4705.html
>
>http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/airframe/fuselage/sec31/photos/IMG_4706.html
>Jae
>40533
>



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

I had the same gap prior to riveting the skin down. I riveted from aft to forward this last weekend and the gap was closed after riveting. The "spring back" in the skin makes it hard to get a tight fit with the cleos.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

Thanks everyone. i may add some proseal just in case the gap does not close.

I asked Vans for their thoughts, too, so will forward those on when i
receive it.

Jae
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egohr1 wrote:
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I had the same gap prior to riveting the skin down. I riveted from aft to forward this last weekend and the gap was closed after riveting. The "spring back" in the skin makes it hard to get a tight fit with the cleos.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: F-1071 to F-1069 skin gap Reply with quote

Jae:

I would tend to agree with Rick's comment. The skins on earlier models that
were not designed and cut with CAD/CAM were oversize and required "trim to
fit" I noticed (luckily) on the 10 the skins were nearly perfect out of the
box and only required the slightest deburring to remove the shear marks.

Fixing the issue cosmetically during paint should not be too hard.

Dick Sipp
N110DV
at the airport

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