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Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS!

 
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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
yay! while we're arguing about stuff... could you guys argue about this for me so i can decide? i'm trying to decide on some less leaky inner tubes, and i think it's between Desser's "leak guard", and Michelin's "airstop". what say you all? and is it reasonably self-explanatory to order the right size inner tube? is it possible for me to screw it up?

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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
Just fill it with nitrogen and forget about it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
Michelin all the way...they hold air best of any tube I have ever seen and worht the extra dollars. Being cheap I'm going to swap mine out at the first tire change.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
Sorry buddy but although nitrogen molecules are larger than good ol' 79/19 % air mixture you still will get leak down from a cheap tube, now nitrogen for stability and moisture free is a different story. Use nitrogen in your Michelins and your gonna be hard pressed to beat the combo but changing air temps will still cause fluctuation of tire pressures so you can't just "forget about it"

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
Do inter tubes hold really Nitrogen better than air??? Air is composed of
~80% Nitrogen. So it would seem that if it is the "other" components of air
(mostly O2) that leak out, then the tube would still be ~80% full of
Nitrogen - and more so on successive re-fills. After the first subsequent
refill the air would be ~95% Nitrogen. After the second refill it would be
~99% Nitrogen.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Desser vs. Michelin... TUBE WARS! Reply with quote
Some of the benefits to using Nitrogen is it's usually much dryer than compressed air and a bit more stable through the temperature ranges we see. Also, Oxygen is corrosive to rubber where Nitrogen is inert. If you believe the guys at your local auto shop, they may tell you that you will get another 1/2 mile to the gallon but I call horsepucky.

If you really want to use it almost every tire shop now will fill tires with Nitrogen so you can just stop by one and have them fill them. You could also get a small tank and regulator from your local welding gas supply and keep it around the shop/hanger.

Michael

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