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crvsecretary

Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 38
Location: Naugatuck, CT

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Zenith building expense

I wish we were so lucky here is South Central Connecticut.  We have a  Metal Supermarket here as well and I find thier prices to be  out-of-sight!!  I am aware these stores are independently owned franchises  so it seems your location has MUCH better pricing.

  

 I'm a Fastenal customer and there are some good deals for fasteners at  The Nutty Company as well (www.nutty.com)

  

 Tracy Smith

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 In a message dated 10/4/2007 1:16:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,  ashontz(at)nbme.org writes:

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The    only thing I wasn't excited about them was that they were a bit limited on the    aluminum sheet front. Not a lot to choose from. If they had that going for    them that'd be awesome, a metal supermarket right down the street from me at    competitive prices. I did manage to score some 5052 for my fuel tanks from    them.



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		   I strongly reccomend Fastenal. They are    everywhere.

  

   Dave Downey

     Harleysville (SE) PA

  100 HP Corvair

 

     

 

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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 723

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Zenith building expense

I'm going to have to ask again at mine. Must have been a couple of smacks working the counter last time I was in there.



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 	  planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co wrote: 	
		  my local branches were willing to bring in the sheet sizes needed if they could come in at their convenience.

 

  Dave Downey

 Harleysville (SE) PA

 100 HP Corvair



 



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Zenith building expense

I need to clarify something from my previous post... on the spread sheet  the gasket set it is priced at 199.00 I ordered one today for my 601 and it is  actually 109.00. You might want to be careful getting an OEM gasket set because  it might have the older style pushrod tube o-rings and they leak and when you  get your head gaskets make sure to use the proper ones not the OEM. I also stand  by my original posts that you cannot build a 601 xl with all the same parts you  get from Zenith for 5,000 dollars there are too many parts you can't make  yourself... Like the gear that is 600.00 or the canopy that is 600.00 the wheels  tires and brakes, fuel selector and strobes  I do think you can do it for  between 8 and 9 K the rest is up to you as far as costs go I was simply saying  the one's I build can't be done for 20,000. I to see the cost savings in scratch  building and have started making templets of the originals to make them faster.  And my next one will be plans built. If you would like to see the one's I am  building now you can check out my website at www.project601xl.com  



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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

Keep in mind that my upset came before I committed to buying ANY sheet through them so I do not know if they actually were going to perform or not - but they certainly said it was not a problem - even partial sheets. The branch I was dealing with (over the phone only) was in Telford, PA.

 

  Dave Downey

 Harleysville (SE) PA

 100 HP Corvair



 



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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

the landing gear is eminently doable - and it is not that big of a deal. It requires a substantial amount of time and craftsmanship but it is a simple part to make. Now, if you want gundrilled brake lines, that is a different story - but the basic design is no problem.

 

  Dave Downey

 Harleysville (SE) PA

 100 HP Corvair



 



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

Making the main gear don't seem difficult it is the bending that would  worry me. Zenith had a problem with them cracking at the bends not sure what  that was about. I would just hate to buy that chunk of alum. and then mess it up  bending it.

  

  

  

 In a message dated 10/4/2007 4:38:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  planecrazydld(at)yahoo.com writes:

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		  the landing gear is eminently doable - and it is not that big of a    deal. It requires a substantial amount of time and craftsmanship but it is a    simple part to make. Now, if you want gundrilled brake lines, that is a    different story - but the basic design is no  problem.

	


 

  



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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

There is no mystery in bending 6061T - or any other alloy and temper for that matter - I am very surprised that they had issues as CH is usually a stickler for that kind of detail. All the information is very old and very much public domain.

 

Dave Downey

  Harleysville (SE) PA

  100 HP Corvair



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dave.thompson(at)verizon.
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

Andy,  

   

What is your source for the “SCAT CHEVY CAST CRANKSHAFTS” for Corvair? I’d like to read more about them.  

   

Question: Can a nitride hardened crank be drilled and tapped for WW’s safety shaft or is it too hard? I thought you had to modify the crank before you have it nitrided. I don’t know about those things.  

   

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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

I'd like to read about anyone who has had the guts  to fly behind one.

  

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shilcom

Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Posts: 63

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

Concerning the landing gear, does any one , like  Grove, manufacture them for the 601xl taildragger conversion. 

  

 Bob U. 

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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

In a message dated 10/3/2007 1:33:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  ashontz(at)nbme.org writes:

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		  No,    those numbers are not way off. They're right on the money. I have spent $1,200    - $1,300 to build a rudder, the elevator, the stabilizer, and the left wing    not including the ailerons including rivets from Zenith. Nothing unsafe about    it. The parts are to spec per the plans. Just off the top of my head, I'd say    I've used about  7 sheets of 4 x 12 6061-T6 in various thinknesses. A    sheet from Aircraft spruce is about $90. So right there we're looking at about    $650 for 85% of the materials required for those parts. Add in $350 for my 8'    bending brake and we're up to $1,600 - $1,700.

	


 

  



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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: Zenith building expense

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