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shinco(at)bright.net
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 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
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I have a KF 2 with a 582 in it.it has 160TT.on engine + AF,I want to
swap it out with a VW 2100.that I want to build up my self.I have done a
lot of work on the VW engines.in sand rails etc.so I do know what I am
doing on them plus I have help.but never built a VW engine for a
airplane.so I need help in that area.but all so I am worred about the
weight + balance etc.can this work in my kitfox?I would like to know
befor I start building.please can any one direct me in the right
direction?all so where I can get the engine parts for aircraft use for
the VW engine. Thanks Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Oh, KF2,582 gray
head,TT160 hr.,N554KF
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roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
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Steve I have a Kitfox IV Speedster with a type 1 VW. I went with the Valley
Engineering llc redrive to swing a big enough prop. The parts are available
through Great Plains Aircraft. Your model 2 might be a little light for the
added weight of the VW. Would definately fly, but I would want to grease
every landing. My original power was 1915cc, but am building a 2275cc now
and hope to have done in a couple of weeks. I too build VW sandrails, but
unlike the 6-7000 rpm 2332cc 150+ horsepower jobs these need to be low
compression low heat motors. Not trying to disuade you, but my Avid a
model is similar to yours and just does not seem like it would tolerate the
added weight. I think that the HKS might be a better match. Ron NB Ore
| Quote: | From: Steve Shinabery <shinco(at)bright.net>
Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:17:34 -0400
I have a KF 2 with a 582 in it.it has 160TT.on engine + AF,I want to swap
it out with a VW 2100.that I want to build up my self.I have done a lot of
work on the VW engines.in sand rails etc.so I do know what I am doing on
them plus I have help.but never built a VW engine for a airplane.so I need
help in that area.but all so I am worred about the weight + balance etc.can
this work in my kitfox?I would like to know befor I start building.please
can any one direct me in the right direction?all so where I can get the
engine parts for aircraft use for the VW engine. Thanks Steve
Shinabery,St.Marys Oh, KF2,582 gray head,TT160 hr.,N554KF
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shinco(at)bright.net
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
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Thanks 4 the help Ron:U may B right.that is why I am asking what to
do.But all so i do like the HKS.because it is low on power.I need at
least 80 true HP.I worry about the CGs,and the weight.and the HP out
put.I still want to carry two people all so.so what is a Kitfoxer to
do? Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Oh, kitfox2, N554KF 582 rotax. thanks
Ron Ore
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<roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.com>
Steve I have a Kitfox IV Speedster with a type 1 VW. I went with the
Valley Engineering llc redrive to swing a big enough prop. The parts
are available through Great Plains Aircraft. Your model 2 might be a
little light for the added weight of the VW. Would definately fly,
but I would want to grease every landing. My original power was
1915cc, but am building a 2275cc now and hope to have done in a couple
of weeks. I too build VW sandrails, but unlike the 6-7000 rpm 2332cc
150+ horsepower jobs these need to be low compression low heat
motors. Not trying to disuade you, but my Avid a model is similar to
yours and just does not seem like it would tolerate the added weight.
I think that the HKS might be a better match. Ron NB Ore
> From: Steve Shinabery <shinco(at)bright.net>
> Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:17:34 -0400
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> I have a KF 2 with a 582 in it.it has 160TT.on engine + AF,I want to
> swap it out with a VW 2100.that I want to build up my self.I have
> done a lot of work on the VW engines.in sand rails etc.so I do know
> what I am doing on them plus I have help.but never built a VW engine
> for a airplane.so I need help in that area.but all so I am worred
> about the weight + balance etc.can this work in my kitfox?I would
> like to know befor I start building.please can any one direct me in
> the right direction?all so where I can get the engine parts for
> aircraft use for the VW engine. Thanks Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Oh,
> KF2,582 gray head,TT160 hr.,N554KF
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dave
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
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Steve,
What is wrong with the 582 ?
| Quote: | I still want to carry two people all so.so what is a Kitfoxer to
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Kitfox II has lower gross weight than a later model ? 950 lbs ?
So you areliekly about 450 lbs with 582 now ? that leave 500 lbs for fuels and 2 people.
Jab will be near the same weight and a 912 will add about 60 lbs.
VW I am not sure of weight, but the way to go on a VW is with a Redrive .
I think a Jab with a re drive would be an interesting experiment as well.
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