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apeterchristensen(at)sbcg
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as a hanger 

for a folded wing Kitfox?  Cheap storage if it would.



Pete

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

you should need about  22 feet long or so

7'10" wide about 

under 6 feet tall if on wheels.

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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Yes it would...;>)          Ron   N55KF



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shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

I do not see why not it would not work,,but would be ugly..but different 

and cheap.would not blow away easy.no up keep.last for ever.launch a 

Kitfox from a train car? humm?why not?may B even have a flat bed train 

car.and use it to take off+land on it too.would be a cheap airport.  

good luck on your project.hope that it works out for you.  Steve 

S,KF2,N554KF



Pete Christensen wrote:

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 Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as a 

 hanger for a folded wing Kitfox?  Cheap storage if it would.



 Pete

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

My garage door is 10' high and I have to be careful when putting my plane,

on floats and a low trailer in the garage.



Noel



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pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Mine is 92" wide and 89" high inside measure. I used it to store my 

plane during the move and now I use it for cheap storage. Its the 

cheapest secure storage you will ever find.  One drawback is no temp 

control. The metal gets much hotter than ambient and much colder than 

ambient. Thus one has to be selective as to what goes in the metal 

box. As you might have noticed the Kitfox wont fit with the wings 

attached even folded or with the horiz attached. Mine is a 40' and 

has doors on both ends . Very handy.



Buy or build a box trailer that is over width. Cheapest would be to 

make your own. Park it at the airport next to a friendly hanger 

owner. The white metal wont have the temp excursions that the steel 

cargo container has. Not as secure since anybody with a saw can open 

it up on the sides. This solution definitely needs tiedowns because 

it is so light. I see 5th wheel trailers parked at different airports 

so I know it is possible. Make one that is 10' wide and 30+ feet long 

that is not very road worthy. Then sneek it to the airport in the 

dead of night to avoid the cops since you will not be highway legal. 

Jack it up a so the cheep tires and axles do not carry much weight. 

Leave the tires on it so it still looks like a trailer. Put a big 

fuel tank in the trailer for ease of fueling or de-fueling.

Have fun,

Paul



At 03:17 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote:

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Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as 

a hanger for a folded wing Kitfox?  Cheap storage if it would.



Pete

RRTRACK(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:28 am Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Depends on what model Kitfox you have and the door opening size of the  container. My Kitfox V would not fit as the horizontal stabilizer, elevator,  folded wings, and landing gear are all to wide.

 Also metal containers would be subject to condensation inside with  temperature changes.

  

 Mark

Kitfox 5 Vixen

912UL IVO

Hartford,  Wisconsin



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

No  problem. put up vapour barrier inside the container and insulate the  outside with siding.  Or get an old transport trailer with plywood  interior.

  

 Noel

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   Also metal containers would be subject to condensation inside with    temperature changes.

    

   Mark

Kitfox 5 Vixen

912UL IVO

Hartford,    Wisconsin

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Why worry about moisture ? 

Just put in a screened window on both ends. 

no one in their Right mind would seal up something too tight now would they ? 



If not is just a greenhouse with out the UV

apeterchristensen(at)sbcg
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

Now there is an idea!  Sounds like the container won't work.  I'm sure a 

slightly oversize trailer might be the way to go.  At 5t6 a shaded tie down 

is $40/month and the airport mgr said I could put a trailer there.



Pete



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rexinator(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

I had looked at an ocean shipping container (which I think may be the 

same thing) and, if I remember correctly, determined that the 

measurements are the exterior size. That means the interior measured 

less than 7' 10" which is the width of my Model 2 folded and it would be 

just about impossible to slip the airplane into one with the wings on. 

Have you measured the doorway and interior of this container? Having 

stored my M2 in an old single car garage with one wing removed because 

the doorway way only 7" 10" it was still a careful exercise to move it 

in and out as the tail is almost that wide.

 I agree they are very good quality and secure ( unless a thief has 

access to a semi tractor and container transport rig).



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Pete Christensen wrote:



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 <apeterchristensen(at)sbcglobal.net>



 Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as a 

 hanger for a folded wing Kitfox?  Cheap storage if it would.



 Pete

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

The idea of using a container for storage is a good one.  Most of them are

reasonably well sealed and if needed can be lined with plywood.  I checked

around for a price on a well used model and the cost was prohibitive.



As for secure, my grand father used to say that a lock is only to tell an

honest man there's nobody home.  Any one wanting to get into a container can

get in fast with a set of bolt cutters or at most a portable oxy fuel torch.



The up side is you would have a great natural wall for a mural and the top

could be converted to a nice sun deck 



Noel



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pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

FYI,

The company I bought my container from welds a metal box at the 

locking place. The result is bolt cutters wont reach the lock. To 

open the lock one has to get the feel for one of those round locks. 

The bad guy has to have a cutting torch to get the door open. Its 

probably easier to use a metal saw and just cut the side open.

Conclusion, very secure.



I noticed that one has to pick the correct container because some 

have a smaller door openings than others. My measurements (92") was 

the door openings.

Paul

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At 05:54 AM 10/15/2007, you wrote:

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The idea of using a container for storage is a good one.  Most of them are

reasonably well sealed and if needed can be lined with plywood.  I checked

around for a price on a well used model and the cost was prohibitive.



As for secure, my grand father used to say that a lock is only to tell an

honest man there's nobody home.  Any one wanting to get into a container can

get in fast with a set of bolt cutters or at most a portable oxy fuel torch.



The up side is you would have a great natural wall for a mural and the top

could be converted to a nice sun deck 



Noel



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JSD

Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Posts: 11
Location: Hahns Peak,CO

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question

I was thinking about a shipping container awhile back and determined that it wouldn't be wide enough. Here's another thought. You could get a junked 10' wide mobile home very cheap on wheels and cut it down to trailer size or just cut the frame down and build your own walls anyway you want. Leave enough room inside to store odds & ends with the plane. Steel up any windows and make it look like a trailer (not a mobile home) to avoid any complaints from neighbors/county etc. It might not be as secure as a container but if they're determined enough they'll get into anything. Anyway this might beat having to go through the building dept. & all to build another garage.

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