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josandt(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

I have this crazy dream to hook up with say 10 other kitfoxers who have the same dream and make it a reality. 10 guys who are able to devote say 50K each to purchase the perfect piece of America for an airpark. Rural, but not dead. Beautiful, uncrowded, with a river closeby (for floats/amphibs). No snobs, silly CCR's, etc. Camp if you like. Live in a box. No one's business. Only about the planes and the flying. Montana or northern Idaho. Be gentle now...after all, it's my dream... Is there anyone else interested in pooling resources? 10 guys could make it work.  John Sandt, Ridgecrest, CA

Series 7  /  Corvair  / BRS  /  Tri-gear  / 70% done - 97% left

shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

Oh yes the American Dream.what a good idea///would B a piece of heaven.I 

can too see it now.  Build it And They Will Come...best of Luck on your 

Dream John..  wish I could be in your Dream all so.  Steve 

Shinabery.KF2,N554KF



josandt(at)verizon.net wrote:

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 I have this crazy dream to hook up with say 10 other kitfoxers who have the same dream and make it a reality. 10 guys who are able to devote say 50K each to purchase the perfect piece of America for an airpark. Rural, but not dead. Beautiful, uncrowded, with a river closeby (for floats/amphibs). No snobs, silly CCR's, etc. Camp if you like. Live in a box. No one's business. Only about the planes and the flying. Montana or northern Idaho. Be gentle now...after all, it's my dream... Is there anyone else interested in pooling resources? 10 guys could make it work.  John Sandt, Ridgecrest, CA

 Series 7  /  Corvair  / BRS  /  Tri-gear  / 70% done - 97% left

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox NIRVANA

Funny you should mention it. For the last ten years or so, my wife has been living her dream of living on a horse farm.  The deal was that when she got tired of taking care of other peoples horses we'd move to an airpark.  I think that she doesn't have much more than a couple of years left in her so I've begun scouting out what's available. I don't know about living that far north though. I grew up in Miami. We lived in Northern VA for a few years and I think that’s about as much winter as I care for. How about Colorodo?



To be honest though, I can't imagine a Kitfox only airpark. There just aren't enough of us. I'd say just keep the runway grass and under 3000 feet long and maybe you'll attract like minded people .





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		  I have this crazy dream to hook up with say 10 other kitfoxers who have the same dream and make it a reality. 10 guys who are able to devote say 50K each to purchase the perfect piece of America for an airpark.

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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

josandt(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

<<<I think that she doesn't have much more than a couple of years left in her... How about Colorodo?

I'd say just keep the runway grass and under 3000 feet long>>>>



Sorry to hear the ol' gal's only got a couple years left in her. Some guys trade 'em in for newer models. The part about Colorado and a grass strip sounds great.   john



kitfox 7 / ridgecrest, ca / Corvair tri

westarmy34(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

hi sounds great  ,,, sounds like a great dream!!! sgt westberg in minnesota



josandt(at)verizon.net wrote:  [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: 



I have this crazy dream to hook up with say 10 other kitfoxers who have the same dream and make it a reality. 10 guys who are able to devote say 50K each to purchase the perfect piece of America for an airpark. Rural, but not dead. Beautiful, uncrowded, with a river closeby (for floats/amphibs). No snobs, silly CCR's, etc. Camp if you like. Live in a box. No one's business. Only about the planes and the flying. Montana or northern Idaho. Be gentle now...after all, it's my dream... Is there anyone else interested in pooling resources? 10 guys could make it work. John Sandt, Ridgecrest, CA

Series 7 / Corvair / BRS / Tri-gear / 70% done - 97% [quote][b]

kcflys

Joined: 28 Aug 2007
Posts: 33
Location: Rancho Cordova, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Kitfox NIRVANA

John, 

If you don't mind that I am currently a C150 owner but Kitfox wannabe, I would be interested in being included in your dream...  I also do a bit of Real Estate investing and may be able to help with the search and working out the numbers as time goes on.  Email me off list if it interests you.  



kcflys(at)pacbell.net



Keith C.

C-150

KMHR Mather CA

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Rancho Cordova CA

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

At 10:42 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote:

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		  Be gentle now...after all, it's my dream... Is there anyone else 

interested in pooling resources?


	


I'm interested. I'm trying to do the same thing in San Diego.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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Michael Logan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 82

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

Isn't there an airpark down where you live Luis?  Living in Northern VA is not so bad, as long as you are in an airpark like I am.  I hate to puff up my chest and swagger around too much but I am living my dream.  I walk 30 feet to my hangar and commute 20 miles to work.  We are just outside the ADIZ for Washington D.C. and we in the airpark are all one big happy family.  This is the only way to live.  My wife flies too, she built a Pulsar.



Most people don't even know we are here but you can see the runway from Route 1, and I-95 is less than a mile away.



Mike Logan

Living the dream in Dogwood Airpark (VA42)

Series 5 RAM 140 



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shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

I would love to be in that dream.but too far for me to go back to work 

every day in OHIO.I live out in the middle of a corn field here in 

Ohio.I am the only kitfox around for miles.or home built for that 

matter.Steve Shinabery N554KF  KF2



Guy Buchanan wrote:

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 At 10:42 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote:

> Be gentle now...after all, it's my dream... Is there anyone else 

> interested in pooling resources?



 I'm interested. I'm trying to do the same thing in San Diego.

 Guy Buchanan

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox NIRVANA

sure, there are plenty of airparks around. The idea of starting one from scratch has its appeal though. Most of the airparks around here are priced out of my tax bracket.

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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

me too that is why I live and fly out of a corn field.  Ident CQA Lake 

Field Airport Celina OH.  no matter how hard I wish and dream.but there 

is all ways a dream.to build my own air strip.my own piece of heaven.but 

un till some thing else comes along. I will B at the airport.. Steve 

Shinabery   KF2   N554KF



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 sure, there are plenty of airparks around. The idea of starting one from scratch has its appeal though. Most of the airparks around here are priced out of my tax bracket.



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 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)





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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

John,



I like the idea, but do your due diligence.  I live in an airpalrk that has 

been in existance almost 40 years and there are folks here that literally 

hate each other.  The street/taxiways are falling apart, but I love it 

anyway for all the reasons you mention.



About CC&Rs, be careful there.  Leo Rice, once on the list and the builder 

of a beautiful Model V once developed an airpark and ended up abandoning 

it - walking away, because a woman bought a piece of the property, put in 

horses, then claimed the airplane sounds were injuring them.  She had more 

financial resources than Leo did, so he got out rather than spending what he 

had left on legal fees. He felt that without a doubt he would have won any 

legal battle, but at the cost of almost everything he had saved for his 

retirement.



Leo was a great guy that all who met him liked a lot.  The colon cancer that 

delayed his build and caused all sorts of medical issues finally got him 

after 3 or 4 years of flying.



Think of all the folks that buy under a traffic pattern, then start making 

trouble because of the noise and start working to close the airport.  We 

definitely have that here and I first visited this airport in the early 70s 

and was driven around the place by someone and all there was was a runway, 

FBO, aircraft maintainance facility - our reason for coming - annuals etc., 

a couple of houses, and a bunch of roads a developer put in trying to make a 

buck.  The place really grew up in that time and we have shopping within a 

mile, but the reason for the area to become a place - the airport - is 

despised by a lot of people.



Be careful,



Lowell





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josandt(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

Luis, That's it exactly! An airpark for the rest of us. Pass on the silly mansion-house and all the garbage that goes with it...CCR's, neighbors in each other's business, etc. An airpark purely for the enthusiast - house optional. Live in your hangar. Who cares.   John



Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / 70% done - 99% to go



<<<<sure, there are plenty of airparks around. The idea of starting one from scratch has its appeal though. Most of the airparks around here are priced out of my tax bracket.    Luis Rodriguez   >>>>

josandt(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

Lowell, I dearly missed your get-together and am glad as can be that you and the mrs are OK. Your words are always well thought out and well worth hearing. I relent - ONE CCR...all properties restricted to aircraft ownership and operations. A LOW MAINTENANCE grass strip. Thank you! It's the balance of those CCR's that cause much of the grief. The neighbors don't like that you conserve water and have a browner yard, they don't like your color scheme, they come over to measure the length of your grass, etc. Absolutely minimal restrictions on freedom - isn't that what the flying is about, after all?    John 

John Sandt, Ridgecrest, CA

Kitfox 7 and Corvair 

Tri-gear and BRS



<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<John,



I like the idea, but do your due diligence.  I live in an airpalrk that has 

been in existance almost 40 years and there are folks here that literally 

hate each other.  The street/taxiways are falling apart, but I love it 

anyway for all the reasons you mention.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

Thanks, John,



I am already lobying for one more fly-in at least a 10th I say.  I agree 

with the CC&R things you mention.  Ours are so cumbersom that most are no 

longer inforced except those that impact aircraft movement - no parking on 

the streets, but even taht one is ignored from time to time.  One that was 

instituted that was uninforcable from the beginning:  Cars and airplanes use 

the same street/taxiways.  It is written in the CC&R that autos would use 

the center of the street while aircraft would use the curb lane.  The 

streets are 100 ft wide so this could work, except we are taught as drivers 

and it is almost instinctive that when you see something on a road that is 

threatening, you would pull to the side of the road.  That puppy didn't fly 

from the get go.  We also have one that nothing over 36" can be within 25 

ft. of the street.  Right now I can look across the street and see a 40 ft. 

Maple tree that is within 4 ft. of the edge of the street corner.  I have 

one too - a flowering plum about the same distance and also on the corner, 

planted by a previous owner.



For sure simple is better.



Lowell



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usher

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Boswell BC

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: kitfox Nirvana

I live in British Columbia Canada. Have a KF 111  mostly of floats. We bought a home at an airpark in east Texas just south of  Tyler. Climate great and on a large lake. We will be wintering there. Check our  www.aeroestates airpark.

 Don

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: Kitfox NIRVANA

At 08:56 PM 10/16/2007, you wrote:

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		  I am already lobying for one more fly-in at least a 10th I say.


	


You'll have lots of help if you want it.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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