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Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1

 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Hello All,

I’m happy to report that I just passed my DAR inspection and am approved to start Phase I flight testing. My Kitfox is a Model III that was purchase back in 1992 and slowly assembled by several different owners in the US and Canada. I finally bought it last year and finished it. That’s 15 years build time and 5 builders in 2 countries, it might be some kind of record…

Anyway, I need to buy a propeller. I was wondering if anyone has an IVO medium 2 blade they would be willing to sell, or a Warp Drive 68” 3-blade. I have a 582 with C drive and 3:1 ratio. Tried to order an IVO 2 blade ultralight but IVO wouldn’t sell it to me because of the vibration/cracking issue. I have been leaning toward the IVO because it has been a really good prop for me in the past and I think it might be a bit more efficient than the others, but I’m willing to try any good option.

I have a nice 70” Warp Drive 3-blade tapered-tip aluminum-hub RH tractor prop if anyone is interested in buying or trading. I think it would work well on a 912 or other RH tuning engine.

I’ve really appreciated all the info over the last few months of building. And I’m even getting an education on biofuels and global warming to boot!

Thanks,
Ken Harrison
kenharrison(at)charlottedesignbuild.com (kenharrison(at)charlottedesignbuild.com)
980-328-5415
Lancaster, SC
Kitfox 3 / 582 / C drive / No prop


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Ken,

I have several props that I use of have used on my Kitfox with 3 to 1 box and a Rotax 582.
68" GSC 3 blade wood ground adjustable.
68" Square tip WARP 3 blade with nickel leading Edge.
72 " IVO Medium 2 Blade.

I have comparable performance with all 3 all within a few % of each other. They each have their own attributes. ie WARP is my main seaplane prop.

I have read all kinds of reports of how each prop will give these massive gains but on my Kitfox I have not found that the case. I have tweaked each one in different weather and temps and with Wheels, floats and Skis. I can say that I have extensively experimented with all the above and a few more and I will fly with anyone of those anytime.

I do sell props and feel free to drop me a line on what you want and dave(at)cfisher.com and I will get you a price. I do have a IVO 72 " medium that have been tested only a hour or two that I can likely get you a decent price on.

Feeel free to go here http://www.cfisher.com/ and I think the 8th link down on left is a link to videos on youtube I have put up as well as other info on Kitfoxes and Rotax.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info, Dave. Yes I have seen all your videos several
times. I'd love to get that kind of takeoff performance. My preference is
low, slow, grass strips. So I'm not too concerned about cruise performance.
I have the really large Mippi treadless tires and would like to get the best
takeoff performance out of the prop. I have always liked IVO on my other
planes, so was leaning that way. Like I said in my post, I tried to buy a
72" ultralight prop but they wouldn't sell it to me. Which I
appreciate...last thing I want is a cracked prop. What are you asking for
the IVO medium?

Also, what would it cost me to buy 3 GSC 68" blades? I have a hub and
spinner, but the blades were cracked in a forced landing (not me), I bought
it with some other Kitfox parts when I was building.

Thanks again,
Ken

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Ken,

I am glad you enjoyed the videos. Hope to get some more done soon.

GSC prop blades are 155 each solid wood.
and with Urethane leading edge 185 each , I would recomend you get this one.

The IVO medium is about 900$ but if interested email me for a price as this one has a few hours on it. I have one on Kitfox now and it works well. dave (at) cfisher.com


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 IVO Reply with quote

PROP for sale IVO Medium .......... Next message will be GSC pricing.

Ok here is the Update on the IVO Medium that is slightly used( about 1 or 2 hours) This is the message i got on it .
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It's a 70 inch. Not a 72 in.
The scratches are on one blade only and are purely cosmetic...therr are three of them and they are about 1/8" long and about 1/18" apart.


Price is 700$ CDN or US they are close to the same now and about 180 $ saving over a new one.

New prop pricing as Follows.;

The new IVO Prop Prices are as follows:
(Quick Adjust hub)

U/L 2 BLADE any length QAH 380.00 860 with electrics
UL 3 BLADE QAH 520.00 1000 with electrics
retro kit 580 if you buy outright After .........

MED 2 BLADE QAH 700.00 w/electric 1780
MED 3 BLADE QAH 890.00 w/electric 1970
retro kit 1220 if you buy outright After .........

MAGNUM 2 BLADE QAH 860.00 w/electric 2100
MAGNUM 3 BLADE QAH 1100.00 w/electric 2340
retro 1400 if you buy outright After .........

SPACER BLOCKS

U/L 5.00 ea
MED 6.00 ea
MAG 7.00 ea


Above prices are both Canadian and US. Both at PAR now

Freight is extra.

Cost for delivery to Canada is around $60.00 as IVO will only ship via AIR UPS.

Freight to USA is around 35.00 if shipped via air and 25.. if by ground


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 GSC PRICING Reply with quote

GSC blades
68" are $155 each
$185 each with leading edge (black urethane) < highly recommended.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Ken

Look on the Barnstormers web site there is a MED 68” IVO three bladed prop for sale new in the box for 700.00

Marin

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Propeller for Kitfox III, 582 C 3:1 Reply with quote

Thanks Marin, I bought a prop last night so I think I’m set.

Thanks for the help.

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marin Streeter
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Ken

Look on the Barnstormers web site there is a MED 68” IVO three bladed prop for sale new in the box for 700.00

Marin

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