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HermanMullis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:38 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

My engine is arriving at the end of the month and i do not have a motor  mount for it.

  

 Does anyone know where i can get the plans or buy a motor mount for the BMW  on the Zodiac XL?

  

 i live in Germany and i tried CzAW, but they no longer make it.

  

 Many thx!

 HKM

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mcr01steiner(at)mac.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

Hallo Herr Mullis,



auf der website von takeoff ( http://www.takeoff-ul.de )  ist unter dem Menupunkt "Dreiachser" auf  Seite 2 eine BMW Installation auf einer XL abgebildet. Haben Sie dort schon nachgefragt?



Sonst könnte ich mit vorstellen das man bei Roland Aircraft Ihnen weiterhelfen könnte. ( http://www.roland-aircraft.de ).



Freundliche Grüsse



Christoph Steiner



Am 18.10.2007 um 10:37 schrieb HermanMullis(at)aol.com (HermanMullis(at)aol.com):

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		    My engine is arriving at the end of the month and i do not have a motor mount for it.

  

 Does anyone know where i can get the plans or buy a motor mount for the BMW on the Zodiac XL?

  

 i live in Germany and i tried CzAW, but they no longer make it.

  

 Many thx!

 HKM

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mcr01steiner(at)mac.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

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Sorry list, the message was meant to be sent privately.



Christoph Steiner

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		  Hallo Herr Mullis,

auf der website von takeoff ( http://www.takeoff-ul.de )  ist unter dem Menupunkt "Dreiachser" auf  Seite 2 eine BMW Installation auf einer XL abgebildet. Haben Sie dort schon nachgefragt?



	
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SockPuppet61

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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: Re: BMW Motor Mounts?

What BMW engines generate 100HP?



It occurred to me that BMWs were so smooth in operation and durable that they would be the only motorcycle engine I'd think of for bolting on to a small airplane.



Anyway, maybe the crankshaft isn't strong enough for air work, I'd like to hear from anybody flying one.

planelists(at)optonline.n
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

Hi SockPuppet61,



Here are some interesting links for BMW engine:



http://www.takeoff-ul.de/  - This is Wilfried Bleidiesel site. He sells BMW 

engines.



And here is one of the guys who is flying it:

http://www.spang-air.de/willkommen/BMW_Engine/bmw_engine.html



Here is picture taken at Wilfried shop showing old and new prop shafts:

http://www.propellers.us/misc/propshafts.JPG



Hope all this info is what you looking for.



George M.

Westbury NY



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j.e.tiethoff(at)hccnet.nl
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

Did you ever wonder why there isn't any motorcycle with a Lycoming, Rotax or

Jabiru- engine ?



 

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What BMW engines generate 100HP?



It occurred to me that BMWs were so smooth in operation and durable that

they would be the only motorcycle engine I'd think of for bolting on to a

small airplane.



Anyway, maybe the crankshaft isn't strong enough for air work, I'd like to

hear from anybody flying one.





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140883#140883



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jpollard(at)ciaccess.com
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

At 02:44 PM 10/20/2007, you wrote:

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Did you ever wonder why there isn't any motorcycle with a Lycoming, Rotax or

Jabiru- engine ?


	




I have not wondered this because it is untrue.



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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: BMW Motor Mounts?

 	  j.e.tiethoff(at)hccnet.nl wrote: 	
		  Did you ever wonder why there isn't any motorcycle with a Lycoming, Rotax or

Jabiru- engine ?



 

No. have you ever wondered why there were so many people in the world with an IQ in single figures?



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HermanMullis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

Dear SockPuppet61,

  

 The entire BMW R 1200 Boxer series, all produce over 100hp. 

  

 That includes the GS, RT, and ST models.

  

 The R 1200 S model produces 122hp!

  

 These numbers are from the factory for the stock  motorcycles.  

  

 Of course, these engines are all fuel injected, dual ignition and the 1200  series motors have a second crank with counter weights to balance the drive  shaft.

  

 The 1200 GS introduced in 2004, is the number one selling BMW bike and over  100,000 GS have been sold.

  

 BMW has made a name for itself in the famous Paris-Dakar motocycle race,  which is one of the most gruelling and dangerous sporting events in the world,  on both men and machines.

  

 i am not flying yet, but others have.  Take Off BMW says they have  produced 250 powerplants with the BMW, mostly on Trikes, but the biggest problem  is the cost!!!

  

 Specially, with the dropping value of the dollar, all European exports to  the USA are going to get very expensive for dollar holders.  

  

 Which means the Rotax products are all going higher!  Pardon the  pun!!

 HKM 

  

  

  

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SockPuppet61

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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: Re: BMW Motor Mounts?

George M, HKM,



Thanks for the links and other info.



The BMW is particularly interesting for smaller aircraft in particular because of its weight / power.



I believe it's likely that BMWs can handle more g-load (at least as much as some smaller aircraft airframes) than a auto motor. Events like Paris-Dakar jam substantial g-load on the motors.



I suspected that the BMW might make a good conversion but hadn't heard of anyone doing it until now. Interesting that there are some 250 conversions, many of them flying.

j.e.tiethoff(at)hccnet.nl
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: BMW Motor Mounts?

The airframe of the Zenairs can handle a g-load of +6. With a 100hp engine

you can't sustain more than 3G. So what's the point of an engine that can

handle more than this ? (Unless you taxiing the Paris-Dakar wth your

aircraft).



 

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George M, HKM,



Thanks for the links and other info.



The BMW is particularly interesting for smaller aircraft in particular

because of its weight / power.



I believe it's likely that BMWs can handle more g-load (at least as much as

some smaller aircraft airframes) than a auto motor. Events like Paris-Dakar

jam substantial g-load on the motors.



I suspected that the BMW might make a good conversion but hadn't heard of

anyone doing it until now. Interesting that there are some 250 conversions,

many of them flying.





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140987#140987



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