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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

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Trying to install gap seals on my Firefly today.. made a mess of the first one...Wondering what the technique could be ? Missing something in my reclining years...Herb
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Herb,
After you prepare your overlapped tape (assumed you know how to do this) cut a short section of this as a test, a few inches long.

From the top of the wing, apply one of the sticky sides to the top, back edge of the wing trailing edge.
You will see the whole tape assy above the wing and aileron. with the other sticky edge towards the rear and pointing up.

Place that aileron FULL down.

Push the tape down through the gap between the wing trailing edge and aileron leading edge.

From underneath, push the sticky part on the underside of the aileron leading edge.

If you have too much or too little tape length left, adjust by changing the position on the wing (step 1)

Now you will know where to start when applying the tape on the wing.

Go for it with a full length piece.

Goo luck, It is easy once you get the hang of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:27 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Steve,

For those of us that may be unsure of how to accomplish the overlap, could you detail that procedure also?

Thanks,
Mike

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[quote] Herb,
After you prepare your overlapped tape (assumed you know how to do this) cut a short section of this as a test, a few inches long.

From the top of the wing, apply one of the sticky sides to the top, back edge of the wing trailing edge.
You will see the whole tape assy above the wing and aileron. with the other sticky edge towards the rear and pointing up.

Place that aileron FULL down.

Push the tape down through the gap between the wing trailing edge and aileron leading edge.

From underneath, push the sticky part on the underside of the aileron leading edge.

If you have too much or too little tape length left, adjust by changing the position on the wing (step 1)

Now you will know where to start when applying the tape on the wing.

Go for it with a full length piece.

Goo luck, It is easy once you get the hang of it.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

In a message dated 10/18/2007 8:28:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com writes:
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For those of us that may be unsure of how to accomplish the overlap, could you detail that procedure also?

Thanks,
Mike



Sure,

I use the kitchen counter top. (Wives and mothers love this)

Take a length of tape, (more than you need) and lay it sticky side up.

Secure it by taping each end down using tape.

Lay a second piece down over it and leave about a half inch exposed along the full length.

About a half inch of the top piece will stick to the counter top.

Trim each end to achieve the desired length.

Carefully carry it out to the plane and apply.

Remove all traces of airplane activity from the kitchen lest all Hell break loose.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Here is the easy way. Forget the tape overlap. Get some 4 inch wide tape, stick it on the bottom of wing-flap, sprinkle baby powder on the exposed adhesive. Your done.

On 10/18/07, Michael Sharp <kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com (kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com)> wrote:
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Steve,

For those of us that may be unsure of how to accomplish the overlap, could you detail that procedure also?

Thanks,
Mike

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Herb,
After you prepare your overlapped tape (assumed you know how to do this) cut a short section of this as a test, a few inches long.

From the top of the wing, apply one of the sticky sides to the top, back edge of the wing trailing edge.
You will see the whole tape assy above the wing and aileron. with the other sticky edge towards the rear and pointing up.

Place that aileron FULL down.

Push the tape down through the gap between the wing trailing edge and aileron leading edge.

From underneath, push the sticky part on the underside of the aileron leading edge.

If you have too much or too little tape length left, adjust by changing the position on the wing (step 1)

Now you will know where to start when applying the tape on the wing.

Go for it with a full length piece.

Goo luck, It is easy once you get the hang of it.
Steve B
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Steve

Should have made myself more clear....no problem with application,,,the problem is in handling..at one time or the other both hands are stuck to the tape.. when I get a suitable piece layed flat on a table, the overlap piece is just very difficult to place into position..static electricity etc.. once it sticks--you are stuck! Smile

Anyone tried straight pins to hold the first piece in position? Herb

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:11:40 EDT N27SB(at)aol.com (N27SB(at)aol.com) writes:
[quote] Herb,
After you prepare your overlapped tape (assumed you know how to do this) cut a short section of this as a test, a few inches long.

From the top of the wing, apply one of the sticky sides to the top, back edge of the wing trailing edge.
You will see the whole tape assy above the wing and aileron. with the other sticky edge towards the rear and pointing up.

Place that aileron FULL down.

Push the tape down through the gap between the wing trailing edge and aileron leading edge.

From underneath, push the sticky part on the underside of the aileron leading edge.

If you have too much or too little tape length left, adjust by changing the position on the wing (step 1)

Now you will know where to start when applying the tape on the wing.

Go for it with a full length piece.

Goo luck, It is easy once you get the hang of it.
Steve B
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Well here is my advise, if you want to do it right forget about the book binding stuff and use 3 inch finishing tape. I have done both and the finishing tape is easy to do. Ten you paint it with a brush. I replaced the book binding stuff twice on mine before I used the finishing tape.If you want to know how to do it get with me off line.lt is easy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Steve

That is what I was looking for...never occurred to "frugal" Herb to waste an inch or so on either end! Smile Thanks....Herb




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[quote] In a message dated 10/18/2007 8:28:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kolbdriver(at)mlsharp.com writes:
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For those of us that may be unsure of how to accomplish the overlap, could you detail that procedure also?

Thanks,
Mike



Sure,

I use the kitchen counter top. (Wives and mothers love this)

Take a length of tape, (more than you need) and lay it sticky side up.

Secure it by taping each end down using tape.

Lay a second piece down over it and leave about a half inch exposed along the full length.

About a half inch of the top piece will stick to the counter top.

Trim each end to achieve the desired length.

Carefully carry it out to the plane and apply.

Remove all traces of airplane activity from the kitchen lest all Hell break loose.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

Herb, Yell if you have any questions. You can also mark the countertop with a dry erase marker to aid in positioning the tape. That first piece is hard to see.

There are many ways to do the gap seal.
This method was Bryan Melborn's.
IMHO, This is the nicest looking and it is very durable unless your plane sits out 24/7.
It is almost invisible unless you really look.
You can remove it by using a little heat from a hair dryer(Yup, you guessed it,From the girlfriend's bathroom) and clean up with googone. It does not harm Polytone in my experience. Test yours.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

What is finishing tape and where do you get it ???

Also, where do you guys get the book binding tape ?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

In a message dated 10/20/2007 10:31:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, orcabonita(at)hotmail.com writes:
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Also, where do you guys get the book binding tape ?

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There are many sources on the Web, I think John H posted one on this thread.
I buy mine from TNK. About the same price and Travis keeps it in stock.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Installing Book binding tape Reply with quote

At 10:30 AM 10/20/2007, you wrote:
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What is finishing tape and where do you get it ???

Also, where do you guys get the book binding tape ?

Mike


This was put on with "finishing tape" and painted, I forget what
size I used. All the aircraft fabric places sell it where ever you get
your covering supplies.


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