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john(at)leptron.com
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 Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: weight and ballance |
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Hi guys,
I am involved in rebuilding Dan’s early number one. Does any one have the info on a number one?
If not maybe a number two would do.
I know the floor is still the level point, I believe the leading edge is the datum
But what is the balance point and what is the envelope.
John Oakley
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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: weight and ballance |
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John sez:
| Quote: | I know the floor is still the level point, I believe the leading
edge is the datum
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I have never seen a Model I in person but on the later models it is
the bottom of the door frame that is the level reference, not the
floor. Maybe on the early ones they are parallel or close to it.
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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John,
Underside of the cabin floor is used on all models and the wing leading edge is the datum.
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MAC on the Model 1 is 51”
Max aft = less then 28% MAC
Max Forward = more then 20% MAC
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AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" <![endif]-->Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:17 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: weight and ballance
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Hi guys,
I am involved in rebuilding Dan’s early number one. Does any one have the info on a number one?
If not maybe a number two would do.
I know the floor is still the level point, I believe the leading edge is the datum
But what is the balance point and what is the envelope.
John Oakley
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john(at)leptron.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for the help, does that mean the datum line is the firewall?
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:22 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
John,
Underside of the cabin floor is used on all models and the wing leading edge is the datum.
MAC on the Model 1 is 51”
Max aft = less then 28% MAC
Max Forward = more then 20% MAC
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:17 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: weight and ballance
Hi guys,
I am involved in rebuilding Dan’s early number one. Does any one have the info on a number one?
If not maybe a number two would do.
I know the floor is still the level point, I believe the leading edge is the datum
But what is the balance point and what is the envelope.
John Oakley
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john(at)leptron.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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Jim,
Duh,
I just reread the note. The cord is 51”,
Again thanks for the help, I am glad you are running the business.
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:22 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
John,
Underside of the cabin floor is used on all models and the wing leading edge is the datum.
MAC on the Model 1 is 51”
Max aft = less then 28% MAC
Max Forward = more then 20% MAC
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:17 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: weight and ballance
Hi guys,
I am involved in rebuilding Dan’s early number one. Does any one have the info on a number one?
If not maybe a number two would do.
I know the floor is still the level point, I believe the leading edge is the datum
But what is the balance point and what is the envelope.
John Oakley
012345
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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Right the chord 51" and important to you, the Datum is the Leading edge of the wing. When the underside of the floor is level.
20% MAC = 10.2' (aft of the leading edge)
28% MAC = 14.28" (aft of the leading edge)
Just playing with the calculator.
Noel
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john(at)leptron.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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Noel and John,
Thanks for your time, we will be using that info this weekend.
This plane is the one that used to be in all the early photo and magazines.
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:47 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
Right the chord 51" and important to you, the Datum is the Leading edge of the wing. When the underside of the floor is level.
20% MAC = 10.2' (aft of the leading edge)
28% MAC = 14.28" (aft of the leading edge)
Just playing with the calculator.
Noel
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jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: weight and ballance |
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John,
I talked with Dan about that aircraft recently… So hope things work out.
<![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]>
AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" <![endif]-->Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:45 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
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Noel and John,
Thanks for your time, we will be using that info this weekend.
This plane is the one that used to be in all the early photo and magazines.
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:47 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
Right the chord 51" and important to you, the Datum is the Leading edge of the wing. When the underside of the floor is level.
20% MAC = 10.2' (aft of the leading edge)
28% MAC = 14.28" (aft of the leading edge)
Just playing with the calculator.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:10 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
Jim,
Duh,
I just reread the note. The cord is 51”,
Again thanks for the help, I am glad you are running the business.
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:22 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
John,
Underside of the cabin floor is used on all models and the wing leading edge is the datum.
MAC on the Model 1 is 51”
Max aft = less then 28% MAC
Max Forward = more then 20% MAC
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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john(at)leptron.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: weight and ballance |
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John,
Is there anything these guys should know about this aircraft?
It is getting quite a work over, you don’t happen to have a tip rib in stock do you?
John Oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:15 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
John,
I talked with Dan about that aircraft recently… So hope things work out.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of john oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:45 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
Noel and John,
Thanks for your time, we will be using that info this weekend.
This plane is the one that used to be in all the early photo and magazines.
John oakley
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:47 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: weight and ballance
Right the chord 51" and important to you, the Datum is the Leading edge of the wing. When the underside of the floor is level.
20% MAC = 10.2' (aft of the leading edge)
28% MAC = 14.28" (aft of the leading edge)
Just playing with the calculator.
Noel
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