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dougsnash(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: Instrument questions

Hey guys, I hope I don't start too many debates with this one but...



I have a question about VFR instruments.  Specifically about a turn co-ordinator.  I have in my collection of "Stuff" a functional, electric gyro turn co-ordinator.  I also have a simple slip/skid bubble.  I am building a CH-701 that will likely be mostly an around the patch type of plane with the occasional cross country thown in.



Is it worth the three point something pound weight penalty to install the electric gyro turn co-ordinator in my panel?  Is this even a useful instrument to have in a strictly VFR plane?  I am planning on gong with a glass panel at some point but that won't be until the plane is flying and the bills are paid down a bit.



Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch Builder

NW Ontario, Canada



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John Bolding

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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: Instrument questions

Doug,  For my money the turn cordinator is not worth the weight penalty on the 701, I've been flying one lately for a few hours with a bubble and that's all you need.  The standard rate turn cordinator is calibrated at a  2 minute turn and you will find the needle pegged easily on the 701.  CERTAINLY there are others that will disagree but for VFR only it's just extra weight in my opinion. LOW&SLOW  John 



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		  I have a question about VFR instruments.  Specifically about a turn co-ordinator.  I have in my collection of "Stuff" a functional, electric gyro turn co-ordinator.  I also have a simple slip/skid bubble.  I am building a CH-701 that will likely be mostly an around the patch type of plane with the occasional cross country thown in.



Is it worth the three point something pound weight penalty to install the electric gyro turn co-ordinator in my panel?  Is this even a useful instrument to have in a strictly VFR plane?  I am planning on gong with a glass panel at some point but that won't be until the plane is flying and the bills are paid down a bit.



Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch Builder

NW Ontario, Canada



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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Instrument questions

2 minute turn coordinator is overkill for day VFR and you will have that function later anyway once you install the glass panel unit. I'd skip it to save trouble, weight, and panel space.



Dred



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 Hey guys, I hope I don't start too many debates with this one but...

 

 I have a question about VFR instruments.  Specifically about a turn co-ordinator.  I have in my collection of "Stuff" a functional, electric gyro turn co-ordinator.  I also have a simple slip/skid bubble.  I am building a CH-701 that will likely be mostly an around the patch type of plane with the occasional cross country thown in.

 

 Is it worth the three point something pound weight penalty to install the electric gyro turn co-ordinator in my panel?  Is this even a useful instrument to have in a strictly VFR plane?  I am planning on gong with a glass panel at some point but that won't be until the plane is flying and the bills are paid down a bit.

 

 Doug MacDonald

 CH-701 Scratch Builder

 NW Ontario, Canada

 

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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: Instrument questions

That is kind of what I was thinking but wanted the opinion of some pilots with a bit more time flying than me.  I've got about 150hrs in my logbook in a mixture of LSA types and lighter certifieds.  The only place I've personally used the turn co-ordinator was during simulated instrument time while training for my Priv Lic.



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psm(at)ATT.NET
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Instrument questions

Hi Doug,



I wouldn't intentionally fly in a plane with no gyro 

instruments.  This is because the risk of inadvertently getting into 

IMC or VMC that doesn't give any outside reference for flying the 

plane is great.



I could easily do a 180 with just a turn coordinator and perhaps an 

airspeed indicator and altimeter.  If you can't do that, then I 

suggest you hire an instructor to train you in that little trick.  It 

could easily save your life.



Of course it would be easier to use an EFIS than the minimal partial 

panel described above.  Still, that calls for some dual instruction 

under the hood to get the basic procedures down.



Good luck,



Paul

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At 07:06 AM 10/24/2007, you wrote:

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Hey guys, I hope I don't start too many debates with this one but...



I have a question about VFR instruments.  Specifically about a turn 

co-ordinator.  I have in my collection of "Stuff" a functional, 

electric gyro turn co-ordinator.  I also have a simple slip/skid 

bubble.  I am building a CH-701 that will likely be mostly an around 

the patch type of plane with the occasional cross country thown in.



Is it worth the three point something pound weight penalty to 

install the electric gyro turn co-ordinator in my panel?  Is this 

even a useful instrument to have in a strictly VFR plane?  I am 

planning on gong with a glass panel at some point but that won't be 

until the plane is flying and the bills are paid down a bit.



Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch Builder

NW Ontario, Canada

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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: Instrument questions

Doug

  

 I installed one in mine, found it quite useful especially if you have no  other reference. In a pinch you could get out of some inadvertent IFR or even  handy at night with no reference to horizon. I found it quite useful for those  hazy days where the horizon blends in with the haze. I have since pulled it out  and installed a Century 1 autopilot in its place. You could place it in the  panel so that when go with a glass panel like Dynon, it will fit in the  hole.

  

 Bob Spudis

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Hey guys, I hope I don't start too many    debates with this one but...



I have a question about VFR    instruments.  Specifically about a turn co-ordinator.  I have in my    collection of "Stuff" a functional, electric gyro turn co-ordinator.  I    also have a simple slip/skid bubble.  I am building a CH-701 that will    likely be mostly an around the patch type of plane with the occasional cross    country thown in.



Is it worth the three point something pound weight    penalty to install the electric gyro turn co-ordinator in my panel?  Is    this even a useful instrument to have in a strictly VFR plane?  I am    planning on gong with a glass panel at some point but that won't be until the    plane is flying and the bills are paid down a bit.



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CH-701 Scratch Builder

NW Ontario, Canada



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