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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I'm simply lost for words.
It is a sad day indeed, and my thoughts and best wishes are with his family.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I am a new builder and did not know Dan.
This is truly a sad day for all of us
Our Prayers are with his family
Joe and Marcia Rhodes
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Jim Carlton
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I, too, never met Dan in person, but his encouragement towards the build, his enthusiasm for aviation, made an impact on me. I wish I could have met up with him as he was traveling to Dana's gig one day some time ago, but my scheduling would not allow it. My loss. I understand he was big into the electronics and toys of aviation that we all wish we knew more about. Condolences to his family and his friends.
We are a smaller world today...
Jim
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It's amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving
responses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by
this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.
Godspeed Dan!
Pascal
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Jim Carlton
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I, too, never met Dan in person, but his encouragement towards the build, his enthusiasm for aviation, made an impact on me. I wish I could have met up with him as he was traveling to Dana's gig one day some time ago, but my scheduling would not allow it. My loss. I understand he was big into the electronics and toys of aviation that we all wish we knew more about. Condolences to his family and his friends.
We are a smaller world today...
Jim
---- Pascal <rv10builder(at)verizon.net> wrote:
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It's amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving
responses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by
this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.
Godspeed Dan!
Pascal
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AV8ORJWC
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Larry - what a wonderful tribute to Dan's perpetual spirit. I can still remember his big smile, the pride of completion and the times we shared discussing mods to make this kit even better for many. Here are two pictures which capture just a glimpse (for those who missed out). I even found postings that we shared below the radar screen on the use of Solidworks. He was always willing to discuss, to share and to dream together. He could often be found in a "Flying High Sky" blue or "Arrest Me for Dreaming" red t-shirt.
<<Dan and his plane.pdf>> "Hiding with pride behind the VANS tent"
"Lloyd, Daniel R." <lloyddr(at)wernerco.com> wrote:
I have this scanned at work full size, I also have the engineers
upstairs putting together a Solid Works model of it, so we can wrap
custom skins on it, then you will be able to see what your paint job
will look like.
I traded flight hours for their lunch time to create it, I will post it
when it is done for all to use. Also we have an artist that will render
it for you in a custom setting.
If anyone wants the full-size drawing in PDF, I would be happy to send
it, you can then take it down to Kinko's and make posters to your hearts
desire.
Bio: 34, IT Manager for Werner Ladder, PP-SEL, Instrument Student, 150
Hours TT, Cherokee Driver, till 10 is done. Based in Hermitage, PA. It
is on the Ohio Border, 1 hour North of PITT. Have 2 Kids, 11 and 6, not
adding any more, (they do not make a larger kit plane!)
Finishing Emp/Cone, have wings ready to start.
I agree with Tim, seems like a lot of geeks are into plane building,
maybe we like the many hours of alone time in the garage?
What do you need on solid works? We use it here at Werner and have 20 seats. Let me know Dan
I also agree with what is here. I am looking at an alternative engine, and am very interested in exploring this avenue. Things that would motivate me are test cell running to prove TBO, and number of Aircraft installed on, I realize to break into the market place you would need Beta testers, I am willing to do that beta testing, but would be have to be at manufactures expense. If I am willing to use my airframe, the least they could do is provide the engine for testing/ proof of concept. Dan 40269
<<Dan and the gang.pdf>> "Sharing in the group builder discussions at Camp Condrey - OSH '07"
I will continue to cling to the memory of his infectious smile as we talked confidentially of renegade builders, unusual techniques and bold ideas for many product improvements. He was my idea of a REAL Experimental/Amateur Aircraft Builder with passion in his every breath and the desire to make another step to "Living the Dream".
John Cox - KUAO (#40600) I am forever making November 1st - Dan Lloyd Day
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen(at)comcast.net>
I too am saddened by the loss of Dan. I don't think I ever met him, but
like many others I felt I knew him. He was part of our extended
family. So, to remember Dan, I went through my archives and read many
of his posts. He sure did contribute and help many of us.
So as a tribute, below are a collection of his emails.
*To start off, here is is last post to the list, from yesterday:*
On mine the cups went up about halfway, and the springs really had to be
compressed to fit at all. I made the angle spacers, and tried to screw
everything together repeatedly before I finally figured out how to get
it all to work. The easy way to do it, is to put all three through the
face plate and set it on the bench, put springs on the screws, backing
plate on, and compress the springs until they just seat in the nut
plates. Then this is the hard part, slide the whole assembly to the side
of the bench and as one screw is exposed get a screwdriver on it and
hold the pressure. Do this for each of the three and it works. The hard
part is then getting the angle spacers to line up, but work with it.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Did anyone at OSH this year take Dan up on use of his wife's Expedition:*
We will have our Expedition, and will be happy to coordinate picking
your stuff up and moving it back and forth for you.
Dan
The RV10 is large, but it does not have a trailer hitch, and the pop-up
is too big to fit into the baggage area, so because we will be there the
whole week my wife offered to drive up and meet us there.
I SHOULD be there with the RV10E and the Expedition.
Dan
Keep in mind I am a glutinous American, so why only take one, I will be
taking both the RV10E and the Expedition, it is my right to burn as much
fuel as possible on a trip!
Dan
Maintenance crew, now you are funny, it is to carry the cotton baby
diapers to wipe off all the drool and fingerprints everyone will be
putting on it!
Dan
*Dan sure did love his RV-10
Here's one from transition training, which was his first flight in the 10*
Hey guys,
I have spent the past day out in Oregon with Mike Seager and flying the
factory 10. I now have 3 hours in type and 15 landings. I have two more
days to fly with him and try and get my mind wrapped around this fast
bird. I know many of you have 4/6/7/8 time, and the 10 is not the same,
but all I can say is WOOHOO! Put the throttle in and it instantly leaps
in the air, blink and we are passing through 2k ft. We flew North and
trued out over 200MPH,
did I say this plane is incredible?? 2.5 years and I am in the home
stretch, and I can not wait to fly my own, and finally report my first
flight.
I know it sounds funny, but we chose to build the 10 without ever having
been in one, and all of expectations have been met and exceeded. For
those of you in the same boat as myself, 150 hrs in SPAM cans, I can not
stress the value of transition training and spending the time necessary
to get used to these planes. Things are happening so fast that it is
difficult at first, but after several hours with Mike I am starting to
feel that with a couple hundred more I might make an RV pilot. One thing
that I find very funny is that I have heard about P-factor and the need
for right rudder, and thought I knew about it, but the first time you
put the throttle to 260 HP you quickly realize what you had no clue
about!!! Get the transition training so you are ready.
While I have been out here I have met a couple of the guys and toured
Vans factory, too cool to say the least. But other than flying the 10,
the most memorable part of the trip is the hospitality of Ed Hayden, he
helped me around town, and took an afternoon to show me his project.
What a plane, all the bell's and whistles and then some! I can not wait
to reciprocate when he comes to town. It is the builder community that
makes this so much fun and Ed is a pillar of the community making us
feel welcome!
THX
Dan Lloyd
N289DT RV10E Finally I can say finishing up!!!
...BUT with everything being said about costs, planning and such, lets keep
in the perspective that there is not a better feeling than the first
time you take off in a plane you built in your garage, it makes
everything else a mute point. No matter what you have to do, collect
aluminum cans if you have to! Build one and fly it, it is definitely
worth the heartache and frustration along the way!
Dan
N289DT RV10E flying
*Dan encoring us on:*
Congrats Tom, and we look forward to hearing about your progress. If you
want to have your wife talk to Trish feel free to call and they can
brainstorm on how each team member can participate. Each of our kids got
to sign the inside of every structure they worked on, with name, date
and age. Even the younger kids can participate by handing tools, sorting
pieces etc.
Give us a call, and I would be happy to fly up and give you guys some
motivational rides and get everyone excited about the adventure ahead!
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Here's one for you Deems:*
Hang in there Deems, you are getting close! After 10.6 hours and 68
landings logged, I can say this plane is worth it. It will be everything
you wanted and more. Now I just need to get home and git'r'done too. I
heard you were coming up to the dinner in a couple of weeks, make sure
to get Randy and others to give you a ride for motivation. This is when
you need it most to get you over the hump!
Dan "starting the up hill push to finish"
N289DT RV10E
*and the last one, Dan asking us to be safe:*
You need to be careful on this, allot of people follow this list and
read your recommendations on both safety of flight issues, as well as
equipage for IFR, but they do not know you do not have a pilots license
and do not have any IMC time, to make this type of comment could lead
allot of low time pilots to believe that they can get by without
training. When I got the transition training from Mike and let him
review your comment he stated that even he, as the pilot with the "most
RV time around" would not get into a new plane and fly when/if there is
transition training available, even he would take several hours and
learn the intricacies of the new plane.
I can not stress the value of transition training enough, regardless of
how much time you have, this is why most insurance agencies will not
insure without dual time. We do not want to end up like the Lancair guys
and have our insurance so high it is unaffordable. We are building plans
valued north of $100k and in the scheme of things transition training is
a very low cost item to help ensure a successful first flight.
Dan Lloyd
N289DT
RV10E
*Godspeed Dan!*
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Both my son and I took Dan up on his offer. He was gracious enough to offer
us a ride to Michael Sausen's house at OSH. While I met Dan and his family
the week before in Greenville as he was finishing his RV-10, we got to know
the family better on the hour drive to Michael's.
His last email to me on Wednesday was:
"I would definitely knock out the fiberglass as you go, I waited to the end
and was so fed up with it that I got bummed out and am still avoiding the
tail. One thing to make sure of, that I saw during Rick's build and mine is
that the Elevator horn fairings do not line up well and require work on the
trailing edge, so fix these by cutting them flush on the trailing edge and
feathering in and taping the line all the way around. I saw how Rick did it
and will do the same on mine. I do not like that transition between the
fairing and the elevator, so I am going to hide it "
Our prayers are with Dan and his family.
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's Family |
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Our families thoughts and prayers go out to Dan's family and friends during these very trying times for them. When tragedies like this happens it makes us stop a think how precious life is and the wonderful friends that we have.
Dan will be missed.
Wayne Edgerton
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I will pray.
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bcondrey
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: Re: Pray for Dan's family |
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We spent evenings together at OSH for the last couple of years and this came as a terrible shock to both of us. I'm totally at a loss for words. Our deepest sympathy and prayers for Dan, Trish and the kids.
Bob & Susan Condrey
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ogdenk
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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What a horrible event, something I hoped wouldn't happen for a long time. I
didn't know Dan, but you could tell he was a great guy from his posts. My
thoughts are with the family.
Kent Ogden and family
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hotwheels
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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It's a tragic loss and I didn't even know the guy. This really hits close to home - especially seeing the photos. Gut wrenching comes to mind.
Anyone know his address so those that are interested can send a condolences card?
My prayers are with Dan and his family.
Jay
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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I only knew Dan through this list and meeting him at OSH this summer. Both on the list and in person, I could tell he was a very unique person. A famous poem by Robert Frost comes to mind that is called "The Road Less Traveled". The last part of the poem is:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I —
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Everyone who builds these planes goes takes "a road less traveled". Dan took it to another level. This is a great loss in many respects. I will pray for his family.
Dave Syvertson
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Reposted from the VAF site:
Tim
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Brian, and all, I am sharing this from Rick Gray on the Ohio Valley
RVators list:
Hi Folks,
I don't have all the details yet and probably won't till late
tomorrow or Monday at the earliest.
I spoke to one of the Funeral Homes in Dan's hometown this evening.
She said that she has a record of 68 Funeral Homes in the area and
Dan wasn't listed as of late this evening. I was told that under the
circumstances the Funeral could be as late as Wednesday or Thursday.
Anyway, she told me to call back tomorrow so I will and will report
back as soon as I know more.
That said, general concensus from the group today was to send a
tree/flowers for Dan. I will call tomorrow but doubt the Florists
will be open so most likely Monday morning. The tree/flower
arrangement will be from The Ohio Valley RVators. If you want to
send something that is 'just from you'.....I'll be posting the
address for the Funeral Home as soon as I have it.
We're also going to take up a collection. I'll be the contact and
will deduct for the tree/flowers then forward the rest per Trish's
wishes.
We also agreed that we'd like to hold a little grass roots fly-in in
Dan's memory. I'll contact the Greenville Airport where Dan flew out
of in the near future and see if they'll help out.
For those wishing to give....I'll be collecting the donations then
will forward it as mentioned above. My mailing address is:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
For those of you wishing to send a card or letter to Trish, here is
the mailing address:
Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
3249 Timer Lane
Hermitage, Pa 16148
As far as a Missing Man ceremony for Dan. I won't know till I talk to
Trish.
Dan had a LOT of friends in the RV community. Please feel free to
share what we're doing with any of the various groups such as Doug
Reeves site and the Matronics RV10 list.
I realize that this doesn't cover all the bases but I think it's a
good starting point.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions are appreciated.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, "Black Magic"
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Did Dan ever finish getting his plane painted? If so, does anybody have a
good picture of it?
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Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Hi Tim,
Thank you. I am not sure but you could have meant a differnet Brian. I have not said much here lately.We have not sold our house yet, but we will move to Ohio when it does..we hope. Sorry to hear about Dan..
Brian Preston
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From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
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Reposted from the VAF site:
Tim
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Brian, and all, I am sharing this from Rick Gray on the Ohio Valley
RVators list:
Hi Folks,
I don't have all the details yet and probably won't till late
tomorrow or Monday at the earliest.
I spoke to one of the Funeral Homes in Dan's hometown this evening.
She said that she has a record of 68 Funeral Homes in the area and
Dan wasn't listed as of late this evening. I was told that under the
circumstances the Funeral could be as late as Wednesday or Thursday.
Anyway, she tol d me t o call back tomorrow so I will and will report
back as soon as I know more.
That said, general concensus from the group today was to send a
tree/flowers for Dan. I will call tomorrow but doubt the Florists
will be open so most likely Monday morning. The tree/flower
arrangement will be from The Ohio Valley RVators. If you want to
send something that is 'just from you'.....I'll be posting the
address for the Funeral Home as soon as I have it.
We're also going to take up a collection. I'll be the contact and
will deduct for the tree/flowers then forward the rest per Trish's
wishes.
We also agreed that we'd like to hold a little grass roots fly-in in
Dan's memory. I'll contact the Greenville Airport where Dan flew out
of in the near future and see if they'll help out.
For those wishing to give....I'll be collecting the d onatio ns then
will forward it as mentioned above. My mailing address is:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
For those of you wishing to send a card or letter to Trish, here is
the mailing address:
Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
3249 Timer Lane
Hermitage, Pa 16148
As far as a Missing Man ceremony for Dan. I won't know till I talk to
Trish.
Dan had a LOT of friends in the RV community. Please feel free to
share what we're doing with any of the various groups such as Doug
Reeves site and the Matronics RV10 list.
I realize that this doesn't cover all the bases but I think it's a
good starting point.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions are appreciated.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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The wings were painted, but the fuselage was not.
He was at Oshkosh, so there must be thousands of photos... Also there's
the video on www.eggenfellneraircraft.com of his plane.
Maybe we should construct our own "photo album" of the pictures we took
with comments and then send to Trish and the kids?
-Jim 40384
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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No, it never got more than what was at OSH.
Jesse Saint wrote:
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Here is another repost to correct the address:
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Please change the address for Dan Lloyd in the above post to read:
3249 Timber Lane
instead of 3249 Timer Lane - the 'b' was left off
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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Does anybody know if he had shared his desired paint scheme? Does anybody
think it would be inappropriate to get a model of it made for Trish? Maybe
something to go with the photo album from the RV10-List to Trish.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: Pray for Dan's family |
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cc'd from our Ohio Valley RVators site:
I spoke with Trish again last night, her words...."I'm taking it one
hour at a time." She asked me to extend her warmest thanks and
appreciation for all the Prayers.
Here are the details as I know them:
1 - Obituary will come out in today's Sharon Herald but will NOT be
available on line until tomorrow (Tuesday 6 Nov). I'll post it as soon
as I have it.
2 - There will be a Visitation on Wednesday (7 Nov) from 5pm-7pm
followed by a 7pm Service held at:
McGonigle J. Bradley Funeral Home
1090 E. State Street
Sharon, Pa. 16146
There will be no Funeral.
3 - After speaking with the florist(s) we decided against a tree (for
now). The thought being that a)there wouldn't be any leaves on the tree
and b)an evergreen of some sort would be very heavy and would more then
likely create a lot of work for Trish. So, we went with a VERY NICE
'Permanent Seasonal Arrangement' that Trish can take home. Again, I
understand that this arrangement will be extremely nice and very well
received.
4 - Trish has set up a 'Daniel Lloyd Memorial Scholarship Fund' for
their children Cameron and Becca. I've received many calls and emails
from folks that want to donate. If you wish to donate feel free to send
a check. Nothing is too small or too large. I'll put the money together
and will hand deliver it to Trish in a few weeks. Perhaps some of you
could accompany me when I do this?
Send to:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
I've already received some donations....On behalf of Trish and the
kids....'Thank You'.
5 - Dan wore his Ohio Valley RVators hat just about everywhere he went.
I got a new hat for him (Thanks Glen 'Dogg' Miller) and will bring it
the Gag Awards/Birthday Party UFO this coming weekend at PHD. I'd like
to get as many folks as I can to sign the hat for Dan. I'll give it to
Trish along with the donations to the Scholarship Fund. I'll try to do
the same with one of the pictures.
6 - Thank You for all the pictures. I've received a bunch of really nice
ones! I've done a little editing and have sent them to Trish. She'll
select the ones she wants and will display them at the 'Visitation' on
Wednesday.
7 - Cards and Letters can be sent to Trish at:
Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
3249 Timber Lane
Hermitage, Pa 16148
8 - I talked with Rod Paul from the Greenville airport again today. We
have their full support and will make arrangements with them and Trish
for the Fly-In in Dan's Memory in 2008 . We WILL do a Missing Man
Formation in Dan's Honor at that time. My thoughts are that we could
also present Trish with the tree at that time as well. Perhaps we could
even plant it for her the same weekend.
9 - Also, I'm putting all the (appropriate) posts from our Ohio Valley
RVators yahoo site and Doug Reeves VAF site together in a document and
will print it out for Trish. There are way too many nice comments and
posts to let it slip by. I'm sure her and the kids will appreciate
having this for years to come.
I plan on driving up to see Trish at the Visitation on Wednesday. I'll
be leaving around 1pm and traveling up Rt77. If anyone wants to join me
I can pick you up on the way by.
Thanks for all your support.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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