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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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 Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: Olden day motors |
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Eugene,
It was kind of funny to hear you mention you used to have an JLO Rockwell. (JLO is pronounced ee-lo)
I had one, too, and as a matter of fact, I STILL have it. I bought it from the guy that built and sold the "Goldwing" airplane. British guy, named Robin, IIRC.
Mine is a 430 cc, 30 hp, Mikuni pumper carb. I bought it for a project I was working on, and then quit the project, but I still have the motor.
It looks just like the Cuyuna 440, but the spark plugs are canted, not straight up. Although I haven't had it running in 30 years, I don't see why it would run, with some proper tuning.
Mine has the external bearing support bolted onto the end. I seriously doubt I would ever consider using this motor for anything that flies.
Anyway, I was just amused to hear someone else knew something about this motor.
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ez(at)embarqmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Olden day motors |
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Yup,
I still have one or two around also. Much better engine than the
Chrysler West Bend it replaced. 
We have come a long way since three miles out and back was considered
a long cross country.
Gene
On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Mike Welch wrote:
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Eugene,
It was kind of funny to hear you mention you used to have an JLO
Rockwell. (JLO is pronounced ee-lo)
I had one, too, and as a matter of fact, I STILL have it. I bought
it from the guy that built and sold the "Goldwing" airplane.
British guy, named Robin, IIRC.
Mine is a 430 cc, 30 hp, Mikuni pumper carb. I bought it for a
project I was working on, and then quit the project, but I still
have the motor.
It looks just like the Cuyuna 440, but the spark plugs are
canted, not straight up. Although I haven't had it running in 30
years, I don't see why it would run, with some proper tuning.
Mine has the external bearing support bolted onto the end. I
seriously doubt I would ever consider using this motor for anything
that flies.
Anyway, I was just amused to hear someone else knew something
about this motor.
Do Not Archive Mike Welch
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Olden day motors |
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JLO bought Cuyuna I thought and now supply the snow mobile engine market.
I just bought the replacement parts for a Cuyuna UL II-02 to replace a seized cylinder.
They are the same parts as the Cuyuna 430 and now JLO 430.
I also have a Cuyuna 430 as a spare.
Same core engines with different accessories.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Olden day motors |
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Ray,
The correct order of history is that Cuyuna bought out JLO Rockwell. Then there was some corporate shifting around, to end up with 2si International. This is described in this advertisement:
CUYUNA ENGINES
Cuyuna Engines, an evolution of the earlier JLO and Rockwell engines, were used as a reliable source of power for a variety of recreational, industrial, marine, and military equipment. Originally a division of Scorpion Snowmobile, Cuyuna Engines, or their JLO/Rockwell predecessors, have powered Scat Hovercraft, MAX ATV’s, personal watercraft, and other recreational equipment. Currently manufactured by the AMW-Cuyuna Engine Company as the 2si engine, these engines and parts are available through our Company.
Mike W
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From: jb92563(at)yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:21:30 -0800
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JLO bought Cuyuna I thought and now supply the snow mobile engine market.
I just bought the replacement parts for a Cuyuna UL II-02 to replace a seized cylinder.
They are the same parts as the Cuyuna 430 and now JLO 430.
I also have a Cuyuna 430 as a spare.
Same core engines with different accessories.
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Riverside County, CA
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: Olden day motors |
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Mike, You said "our" company, When I tried to contact 2SI to buy a
replacement they would not reply. Can I buy a new 430? or a new 430 long
block?
Dan Walter
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: Olden day motors |
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Hi Dan,
Slight misunderstanding here. As my reply indicated, that paragraph was taken from an advertisement. I "copied and pasted" the information. The "our" was referring to the company people talking about themselves.
Here is the website I got the JLO Cuyuna history from:
http://www.zdenterprises.com/engineindex.htm
I hope they can help you. Mike Welch
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Subject: Re: Re: Olden day motors
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Mike, You said "our" company, When I tried to contact 2SI to buy a
replacement they would not reply. Can I buy a new 430? or a new 430 long
block?
Dan Walter
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: Olden day motors |
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At 10:23 PM 11/19/2007, DANIEL WALTER wrote:
| Quote: | ...When I tried to contact 2SI to buy a
replacement they would not reply. Can I buy a new 430? or a new 430 long
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Perhaps, but only if you don't tell them it's for an aircraft. Tell 'em it's for an airboat. Seems it's a 460 now, though, not a 430. Dunno how that differs from the UL202. From their website:
"The AMW/ Cuyuna Engine Company Inc. dba as Two Stroke International, is ceasing all sales and service of engines, components, and parts for use in manned aircraft applications. The company is seeking parties interested in purchasing the aircraft portion of the business. A listing of customers awaiting parts or service will be provided to the new buyer(s) so that they may begin servicing your needs.
"We regret all inconveniences and delays this will undoubtedly cause in obtaining the parts that you may need. Hopefully, someone interested in the Ultralight and Experimental market will jump on this opportunity quickly.
"This decision to discontinue sales for aircraft use is based solely upon economics. The aircraft market was a minute portion of our overall business, and was not providing earnings benefits to continue our efforts in that market. We will continue supplying our engines for military, commercial, industrial and racing applications."
Of course we all know that's a load of BS and that it's from liability concerns.
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