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propwash

Joined: 06 Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Location: San Jose, CA

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: FS II

I have about 5 hours in a Quad City Challenger. The balance of my hours (about 12 or so) is in a Quicksilver Sprint, single seat. The controls are about 80% rudder, 20% alierons. Perhaps its even more rudder. Is the Kolb Firestar more alieron centric than the Quicksilvers? Much like the Challenger. I'm not going to get any dual instructions it seems, unless I can find a MKIII around. Hence all the newbie questions. I'm a little worried about that first flight!

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The BaronVonEvil

Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Walla Walla, WA.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: FS II

Hi Prop,



I would say that the Kolb is more balanced than that of a quicksilver say 

about 60% rudder and 40 % aileron. You still need to use both to make a turn 

but once the turn starts, the FS will track the turn quite well.



I was flying a Maxair Drifter before I got my Kolb and I found the Kolb 

handled much better than the Drifter (My Apologies to Artie !   ).  The 

Kolb is a cleaner design then a Quicksilver or a Drifter and it just kind of 

grooves through the air.



The tail wheel thing is really a non-event but I would still say get a bit 

of tail wheel practice if you can.  I found the first time I was in a 

tailwheel plane I was caught off guard as the tail came up and I thought I 

was about to nose over ( This was in a Robertson B1RD ).  Once you get 

aquainted with that sensation it really is not a big deal. The FS II tail 

normally doesnt come up very much so the sensation isnt really that 

noticeable.  The rudder is responsive and has good positive control.



If you have go solo, just pick a calm day and get lots of taxi practice in 

your Kolb and get comfortable with the plane before your first go around the 

patch.



Best Regards

Carlos G



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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: FS II

At 01:28 AM 12/7/2007, Carlos wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I would say that the Kolb is more balanced than that of a quicksilver say 

about 60% rudder and 40 % aileron. You still need to use both to make a 

turn but once the turn starts, the FS will track the turn quite well.


	


With all that dihedral you can fly a Quicksilver all day without touching 

the ailerons; the early Quicks didn't even have ailerons.  On a Kolb you 

can't do that, the rudder only coordinates the turn (like most airplanes).



 	  Quote: 	
		  The tail wheel thing is really a non-event but I would still say get a bit 

of tail wheel practice if you can...


	


When I first flew my Ultrastar I hadn't flown a tailwheel plane in nearly 

20 years (or _any_ plane in nearly a year).  Tailwheel instruction is a 

good idea, but if you can't, do a lot of fast taxiing on the runway... but 

only if the runway (or adjacent grass) is wide enough and clear of 

obstacles in case you lose it and swerve off the runway.



I don't like crow hops as a training method.  The transition from takeoff / 

climb to descent / landing is tricky and unnatural.  It's better to have 

plenty of time to set up and stabilize your landing approach from several 

hundred feet rather than starting it just before you have to flare.  I did 

a lot of crow hops learning to fly a weightshift Quicksilver, and it still 

didn't prepare me for my first (and last, but that's another story!) trip 

around the pattern.



-Dana



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: FS II

I'm a little worried about that first flight!>>



Hi,



I went from a Thuster, tail dragger, to the Challenger. As all tricycle 

undercarts are weak at the nosewheel I always landed the Challenger nose 

high  very like a taildragger..Always on the mains and hold the nose off.

If you can do that in a Challenger you probably won`t have too much trouble 

in the Kolb. Make sure you are into wind for the first flight. There is no 

need to look for complications.

I was worried after all the stories on the list about the `Kolb quit`, how 

many undercart legs have been broken , tails banging on the ground before 

the mains touched down etc.before I flew ta Kolb.

Although my experience, what little I have had , has been with the Xtra I 

have had no trouble landing. Keep the speed up a bit amd when the blur of 

the grass changes so that you can see individual blades round out gently and 

its no prob. DONT round out high. If you round out high on the Challenger 

she will just sink slowly to the ground the Kolb will arrive a little more 

sharply.



Good luck



Pat

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Wade Lawicki

Joined: 27 May 2007
Posts: 31
Location: Nashville Tn.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: FS II

I went from a 2 place sprint to my FS2, had lots of taxi practice with the tail raised, no problem.  on first flight i verified the stall speed for my asi and made sure to fly the plane all the way in, it does not float like a sprint does. If you make sure to reach the ground BEFORE your stall speed you will be fine as the speed bleeds off fairly quick, making sure to hold the tail down.



                                Fly safe,

                                             Wade

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