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Keith Snyder
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 Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage.
Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at them side by side?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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I don't think the Continental weighs the same as a Jabiru 3300. Even if you
look at Continental's own specs it weights more. I've weighed my 3300 and it
is within a pound of the spec sheet. If you think the Continental weighs the
same try comparing empty weights for an AMD 601XL to a kit built 601XL with
a 3300.
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Keith Snyder
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: Re: Jabiru vs. |
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Per the spec sheets it's 8 pounds difference in favor of the Jabiru.
If they are like the motorcycle manufacturers there could be a fair amount of difference between what they tell you and reality.
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donmorrisey
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if not more.
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> Subject: Jabiru vs.
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Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage.
Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at them side by side?
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hawk(at)compuplus.net
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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I would agree with that 50 lb difference. I just purchased a new TMX 0-200
and even with the lighter starter and new type alternator, the installed
weight is between 220 and 235 lbs without vacuum pump.
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Peter H
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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The J3300 82Kg is same weight as the Revmaster but 120 HP (rating)
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I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if not more.
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JOE RONCO
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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The Continental literature that I got at Oshkosh 2007 for the new O-200D
(Light Sport version that Cessna is using for the 162) shows an installed
dry weight with accessories of 215 lbs + 6 quarts of oil = approx 225-230
lbs.
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donmorrisey
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: Jabiru vs. |
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That is correct. With everything attached to an O-200 (including oil) it will be in the range of 235 pounds. An O 235 will be in the range of 275 pounds. My original choice for my aircraft was the O 235. A load of research later, I also decided the O 200 was also too heavy and went with the Jabiru 3300. The published weights of the O 200 and O 235 are very misleading. You need to go back to their type certificates to get the real numbers plus the add ons. Luckily for me, Mahlon Russell, who is a great resource on the Lycoming Yahoo list is also the Service Manager at Mattituck. He actually weighed two engines from their test cell for me.
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> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:38:45 -0800
[quote] From: rshannon(at)cruzcom.com
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Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.
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I'm not sure about 50 lbs., but the O-200 is substantially heavier. When
comparing engine weights, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
Jabiru's published weight (~172 lbs.) includes starter, generator,
exhaust, cooling baffles. The O-200's published weight (see
http://tinyurl.com/3bbeht) is just for the "basic engine".
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