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tganster

Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

I am interested in starting a thread showing cost saving ideas you have found while building your plane. I found two ideas from other RV builders while searching the web. I am a fairly new builder and I apologize if these are old hat.

   Rather than spending the money on alodine by the gallon and the hazard shipping to go with it, I purchase 2 lbs. 14-2 iridite from a local racing supply house for $59.00. The dry powder mixes with water to make up to 40 gals. of alodine.

  I also built a c-frame dimpler from some scrap I had laying around the shop. I mounted my rivet gun to the top of the piston for a very efficient way of dimpling skins. It really works quite well. See attachment.

  Please add your cost/labor savers to the list.

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

Run the order form for the emmpenage kit through the shredder. That will save you a ton of money. 



Rick Sked

40185

Looking for some jolt to finish this thing up.



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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

Easy



Get everything you need in one shipment except for engine and prop (prop has 

life)



Do not change things that do not need to be changed. Do not fill your panel 

with stuff you will never use.



Happy to talk figures if you email direct



vhmum(at)bigpond.com



regards Chris

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

Very interesting set up you have for your C frame.

  

 How do you get your rivet gun to convert from an automatic to a single fire? 

  

 It looks like you have your dies in upside down, with them that way, you will be missing a lot of holes and making some unwanted ones. I think it would be helpful to also make your table extended out beyond where the dies are to help support the material. Don't forget to put down the carpet on the table.

  

 Be certain you know where and when to cut corners on cost.

  

 Am I the fish that took the bait? 

  

 



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 From: tganster(at)mwwb.net

 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:07:07 -0800

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 I am interested in starting a thread showing cost saving ideas you have found while building your plane. I found two ideas from other RV builders while searching the web. I am a fairly new builder and I apologize if these are old hat.

 Rather than spending the money on alodine by the gallon and the hazard shipping to go with it, I purchase 2 lbs. 14-2 iridite from a local racing supply house for $59.00. The dry powder mixes with water to make up to 40 gals. of alodine.

 I also built a c-frame dimpler from some scrap I had laying around the shop. I mounted my rivet gun to the top of the piston for a very efficient way of dimpling skins. It really works quite well. See attachment.

 Please add your cost/labor savers to the list.

 

 

 

 

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AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas - tools

Some great tools to get you through with your brain intact 



1. 3M scotch brite wheel  don't even think of starting without it $55



2. Harbor Freight Die grinder - about $10 - use with the Norton cutoff disks - Gets you through the cabin top and widows (burned out my first one). Remember to lubricate



3. Dremmel tool - 10.8Volt lithium battery operated - $49 Wal Mart. Powerful enough and high speed. Buy the $5 carbide drum bit (awesome)



4. Black and Decker Dragster Belt Sander. Light enough to control with one hand while you control the work with the other hand. The 3"x21" belts really wear well and the pointy tip on the Dragster UPC 28877-47945 lets you get into the tight spots on the door frame ($49-$69) Depot/WalMart



5. Harbor Freight Electronic digital caliper (the better one) made out of metal. Runs $12-25 



6. Dental-Surgical tools - Curved dental pick - dental mirror - scissors - Haemostatic forceps (the kind that lock) (at OSH $1-$2 each)



If I had owned all of these when I started it would have been easier

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roadmaps

Joined: 08 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

Add to the list:

  

 Harbor Freight Pneumatic Pop Riveter - about $25  (worth hundreds in saved time) 

 Couldn't do without the pneumatic squeezer

 Battery powered screwdriver for deburring  (Black & Decker)

 Magnetic pick up stick.

  

 We  have found that 50% of the build time is spent looking for stuff (I just laid  that tool down next to me - where is it?!?) - organize you tools and parts well  and keep things where they belong.

  

  John Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com (jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com)

40321

 Richmond, VA

Paint prep, interior, and  LOTS of little stuff

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 From:  tganster(at)mwwb.net

 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:07:07 -0800

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 I am interested in  starting a thread showing cost saving ideas you have found while building your  plane. I found two ideas from other RV builders while searching the web. I am a  fairly new builder and I apologize if these are old hat.

 Rather than  spending the money on alodine by the gallon and the hazard shipping to go with  it, I purchase 2 lbs. 14-2 iridite from a local racing supply house for $59.00.  The dry powder mixes with water to make up to 40 gals. of alodine.

 I  also built a c-frame dimpler from some scrap I had laying around the shop. I  mounted my rivet gun to the top of the piston for a very efficient way of  dimpling skins. It really works quite well. See attachment.

 Please add  your cost/labor savers to the list.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

[quote]>We have found that 50% of the build time is spent looking for stuff (I just laid that tool down next to me - where is it?!?) - organize you tools and parts well and keep things where they belong.  [quote] On the above note I found that the best tool box I ever owned was a large pegboard with a specific place for each tool. You always know where they are and if one (or several are missing).Minimal cost and can look impressive when organized. It also prevents you from buying your third set of box wrenches.  Robin[b]

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tganster

Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Cost/labor saving ideas

John,  

            I just tap the trigger which gives about 2 hits and works well.  

   

            I must have put the dies in upside down for the picture. Or maybe I should check to see if the dimples on my parts are all innies!  

I put the dies out to the edge to facilitate getting the prebent (HS) skins under the table when dimpling the opposite side.  

   

            And yes I do have all surfaces covered to keep from scratching things.  

Thanks for the input. And I will take your words of wisdom on cost cutting. Thanks  

   

            Tom Ganster 40778 Emp kit HS   

   

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