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bransom(at)ucdavis.edu
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: E-LSA ?

Hi all,

I've been away from the Kolb list for quite a long time.  I still fly my 

Firestar KXP, but not real often as I'm pretty absorbed in building 

another plane.  I'm back with questions related to LSA -- sorry if these 

have been covered here already.  I decided to try to get my KXP 

registered as E-LSA by the Jan 31 deadline.  Is that the route most of 

you Firestar single place builder/owners have taken?  I decided to do 

this late and may not get my inspection in time, but we'll see.  I'm 

also curious if anyone has found DARs to not approve of the clevis plus 

cowling pins at all the main joints (lift struts, wing spar to cage, 

tail cables). Any other E-LSA issues that you have encountered?



Thanks,



-Ben Ransom

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Jim ODay

Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 61
Location: Fargo North Dakota

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: E-LSA ?

Ben:



I took my FSII through the process.  If you want a copy of my submittal to he FAA send me an e-mail and I will send it to you.  I followed the steps in the EAA transition kit and the paperwork was smooth.



The inspector did a quick look around the plane and we went off to do the paperwork.  Since it had flown before, I was good to go w/o any additional flight testing.



Here is some history on the list - http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=31767&highlight=



Good luck Ben.  Your website was one of those that kept me motivated to complete my plane.



Fly safe.



Jim

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Jim O'Day
Fargo, ND
Former Firestar II Builder/Pilot

planecrazzzy
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: E-LSA ?

Hey Ben,

              Hows it goin....  I used your pictures for inspiration while

building my Firestar II.....Been flying it a few years now...



 I'm also working on a new plane - Tube & Rag

"Buttercup" (Steve Wittman)



With "Slats" for slower STOL

.



Engine Model.................O-200 

Engine Horsepower........100 

Propeller.......................66/55 

Cruise Speed.................125 mph 

Top Speed.....................145 mph 

Landing Speed................40 mph 

Maximum Speed(Vne)...150 mph 

Stall (clean)......................51 mph 

Rate of Climb.............550 ft./min 

Gross Weight............1290 Pounds 

Empty Weight............790 Pounds 

Payload.....................500 Pounds 

Wing Span....................29'5" 

Wing Area....................132 sq.ft. 

Aircraft Length.............19' 6" 

Fuselage Height............Cabin 44" 

Fuel Capacity..............20 Gallons 

Seats 2..............(side-by-side) 

Cabin Width..................40" 

Takeoff Distance............300 feet 

Landing Distance...........200 feet

.

.

*************ATTENTION***************



ALSO , See the Pictures at "WINGS FORUM"

Go to "links" on this site,

At Wings, Log-in to see Pictures in "WITTMAN" section

( always being updated with NEW Pictures )



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/



                     Gotta Fly...

                                     Mike & "Jaz" in MN

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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: E-LSA ?

Ben --



I'm not sure you have time, but it's worth a shot... if you can find a

DAR, contact him immediately.  Your biggest issue may be getting the N

number and paperwork from the FAA.  Some on this list and others have

said that the FAA, even if they have the paperwork in-house, won't

process it once the Jan 31 deadline is passed.  Others say the

opposite.  The point is, get rolling!



What I can tell you for sure is, my DAR did pass my MkIIIC with clevis

pins and safety pins at each major joint, as I unfold/refold my Kolb

for every flight.  He was very particular about everything, and I had

to correct/improve a few items, but it passed.  Just make sure your

DAR will work with you.



Good luck!



  -- Robert



On Dec 11, 2007 2:23 PM, Ben Ransom <bransom(at)ucdavis.edu> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi all,

 I've been away from the Kolb list for quite a long time.  I still fly my

 Firestar KXP, but not real often as I'm pretty absorbed in building

 another plane.  I'm back with questions related to LSA -- sorry if these

 have been covered here already.  I decided to try to get my KXP

 registered as E-LSA by the Jan 31 deadline.  Is that the route most of

 you Firestar single place builder/owners have taken?  I decided to do

 this late and may not get my inspection in time, but we'll see.  I'm

 also curious if anyone has found DARs to not approve of the clevis plus

 cowling pins at all the main joints (lift struts, wing spar to cage,

 tail cables). Any other E-LSA issues that you have encountered?



 Thanks,



 -Ben Ransom

  http://mae.ucdavis.edu/ransom

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert Laird
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: Re: E-LSA ?

 	  bransom(at)ucdavis.edu wrote: 	
		  Hi all,

I've been away from the Kolb list for quite a long time.  I still fly my 

Firestar KXP, but not real often as I'm pretty absorbed in building 

another plane.  I'm back with questions related to LSA -- sorry if these 

have been covered here already.  I decided to try to get my KXP 

registered as E-LSA by the Jan 31 deadline.  Is that the route most of 

you Firestar single place builder/owners have taken?  I decided to do 

this late and may not get my inspection in time, but we'll see.  I'm 

also curious if anyone has found DARs to not approve of the clevis plus 

cowling pins at all the main joints (lift struts, wing spar to cage, 

tail cables). Any other E-LSA issues that you have encountered?



Thanks,



-Ben Ransom

 http://mae.ucdavis.edu/ransom 	


Hi Ben,



You were one of the originals on the Kolb list many years ago. I'm still flying my Original Firestar after 21 years. It's a good little airplane.



The EAA is petitioning the FAA for an extension on aircraft certification if you have your registration in by Jan 31, 2008.



From Sport Pilot magazine:



"EAA recently reviewed the disparity between the number of aircraft

registered and the number certificated. There is a wide gap.

Accordingly, EAA is petitioning the FAA for an extension of the

certification process --- that is have received their N-number from

the FAA -- by January 30 2008, to complete the airworthiness process.

Realistically, the FAA may not respond to this request until after

the January 31, 2008 deadline passes. EAA is asking the FAA to allow

those owners to have until June 30, 2008, to complete the

airworthiness certification process."



EAA Aviation Services:

877-359-1232



So it looks like you may have a chance to get it certificated if you get your registration in by January.



Ralph B

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Kolb Kolbra 912uls
N20386
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