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shempdowling(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

I'm shopping around for a paint job and am getting sticker shock.  The 

only "local" shop around Chicago told me his last RV paint job was 

$7200.  I thought they typically cost around 5000.  I've spent a lot of 

time on my glass stuff and its pretty much ready to paint.  Anyone have 

a cost of a good relatively simple 2 color paint job that didnt require 

a lot of work by the painters?



Shemp

300+

6a

Chicago



mike humphrey wrote:

[quote] 

 <mike109g6(at)insideconnect.net>



 Mike,

 In my hanger I have the T-12 cold weather 8' units.  Great lighting, 

 work in cold fine, easy to replace, just started replacing bulbs after 

 3 1/2 years continual use, pricey but great lighting.  Lowe's carries 

 the 8' fixture and bulbs(green ends and they just push in, no 

 twisting).  In my work areas I have added specific lighting to the 

 situation.  Bandsaw, lathe, drill press (dangerous areas) have 

 separate lighting on switches.  I would not hang any lighting on the 

 16' ceiling though.  Lighting disperses geometrically.  So whatever 

 lighting that you choose, suspend it from some cheap chain and lower 

 it to about 2-3 feet above your highest point on the floor, ie tail of 

 plane.  Reflectors are cheaper than lighting units and you will save 

 electricity which equals $.  More $ to spend on RV's.  Remember, 

 whatever lighting that you put in, you will not want to replace 

 anytime soon, if ever, by lowering your units, maintenance will be 

 easier also, unless you just happen to have a 16' step ladder.

 Mike H

 9A/8A

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andygold(at)rkymtnhi.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

I painted my plane with three colors of Imron.  The total cost of materials 

was about $400.  I did all the prep work myself, built a booth in my garage, 

and asked a local pro to come over and squirt the top coat.  He did a great 

job and had about 2 hours into the whole thing. I bought him a case of 

scotch and went flying with him a couple times.  Everyone walked away very 

happy.



With mine, the prep work was just that - "work". Its nothing difficult or 

anything that requries any unusual skills.  But it takes a lot of time and 

that's why your local shop wants $7200.  The only part of the job that takes 

skill and experience to get right is the final squirt.



If you want to see how to prep and paint your RV, get Sam James's Painting 

101 video.  (Its at Builder's Bookstore  www.buildersbooks.com )



Andy





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cjensen(at)dts9000.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Shemp, 



Rarely is the prep work done by a builder even close to the degree of finish that a quality painter requires.  The builder/owner thinks just a few hours of touch up is all that is required, but more often, its like several days or a week or more.  If the local shop does a high quality prep job and paint to match, $7,200 isn't unreasonable.  If he's doing an "Earl Schribe" type paint job, then $5,000 is way too much.



Chuck

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Take a look at Randy's Lervold's write-up of his RV-3B paint process.  I've

seen the final outcome and it looks great.  He is a meticulous and

thoughtful builder, so you can trust his commentary.  I have never painted

more than the interior walls of my house, so cannot say anything about this

topic, but the statement below, "the prep work...takes a lot of time and

that's why your local shop wants..."  $$ is the truth.  You just need to

know what to do and how to do it.  Then you need to decide if your labor is

worth the savings.  Applying the paint is the skill part.  The rest is time

and effort.  



http://www.romeolima.com/RV3hq/Paint/paint.htm 



John J

  40328 



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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Andy Gold wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I painted my plane with three colors of Imron.  The total cost of 

 materials was about $400.  I did all the prep work myself, built a booth 

 in my garage, and asked a local pro to come over and squirt the top 

 coat.  He did a great job and had about 2 hours into the whole thing. I 

 bought him a case of scotch and went flying with him a couple times.  

 Everyone walked away very happy.

 

 With mine, the prep work was just that - "work". Its nothing difficult 

 or anything that requries any unusual skills.  But it takes a lot of 

 time and that's why your local shop wants $7200.  The only part of the 

 job that takes skill and experience to get right is the final squirt.

 

 If you want to see how to prep and paint your RV, get Sam James's 

 Painting 101 video.  (Its at Builder's Bookstore  www.buildersbooks.com )

 


	


When I painted my RV-6 eight years ago, my cost of materials (PPG 

Concept single stage) was close to $1000.



Wish I could've sprayed my plane in two hours...bet I had 15 hours just 

in masking.............. )-:



I used to think aircraft paint jobs were outrageously priced. After 

painting a couple of planes, I am amazed a paint shop can stay in 

business by only charging $7000.



Sam Buchanan

rickrv8(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

I had my -8 painted two summers ago.  I probably got a dozen quotes from 

companies with RV experience from all over the country.  Mine was a 

multi-colored paint scheme and my quotes ranged from about $4900 to $7000 

for a single stage job and $6500 to $12,000 for a base coat/clear coat job.  

I decided on a base coat/clear coat for $8500 from Prestige Paint in upsate 

Vermont (see the Yellerpages).  I would suggest you shop around.



Additionally, virtually every shop I spoke to said they include a few hours 

labor for prep in their quote because they rarely experienced an airplane 

that was indeed ready for final color coating.  You'll be hard pressed to 

get them to quote less unless they see your work.



Rick McBride

RV-8 N523RJ

[quote]From: Shemp <shempdowling(at)gmail.com>

Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Cost of Paint Job

Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:59:57 -0600






I'm shopping around for a paint job and am getting sticker shock.  The only 

"local" shop around Chicago told me his last RV paint job was $7200.  I 

thought they typically cost around 5000.  I've spent a lot of time on my 

glass stuff and its pretty much ready to paint.  Anyone have a cost of a 

good relatively simple 2 color paint job that didnt require a lot of work 

by the painters?



Shemp

300+

6a

Chicago



mike humphrey wrote:

>

><mike109g6(at)insideconnect.net>

>

>Mike,

>In my hanger I have the T-12 cold weather 8' units.  Great lighting, work 

>in cold fine, easy to replace, just started replacing bulbs after 3 1/2 

>years continual use, pricey but great lighting.  Lowe's carries the 8' 

>fixture and bulbs(green ends and they just push in, no twisting).  In my 

>work areas I have added specific lighting to the situation.  Bandsaw, 

>lathe, drill press (dangerous areas) have separate lighting on switches.  

>I would not hang any lighting on the 16' ceiling though.  Lighting 

>disperses geometrically.  So whatever lighting that you choose, suspend it 

>from some cheap chain and lower it to about 2-3 feet above your highest 

>point on the floor, ie tail of plane.  Reflectors are cheaper than 

>lighting units and you will save electricity which equals $.  More $ to 

>spend on RV's.  Remember, whatever lighting that you put in, you will not 

>want to replace anytime soon, if ever, by lowering your units, maintenance 

>will be easier also, unless you just happen to have a 16' step ladder.

>Mike H

>9A/8A

>---

Mark Phillips in TN

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 431
Location: Columbia, TN

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

In a message dated 12/13/2007 12:36:18 PM Central Standard Time, sbuc(at)hiwaay.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  I used to think aircraft paint jobs were outrageously priced. After 

painting a couple of planes, I am amazed a paint shop can stay in 

business by only charging $7000. 	


 >>>

 Same here.  Doug Reeves used to have paint shop reviews on his Vans Air Force website, but it looks like they are gone.  Here is a description of my most excellent paint shop experience, courtesy of Bobby Potts at TCL, Tuscaloosa, AL (you didn't REALLY want to paint in the snow, didja?!).  Damage was $7K almost 3yrs ago, and very happy to pay it:

  

 http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/

  

 (The Expercraft website seems to down right now, but try later- select Painting link from bottom of left column of homepage above)

  

 Mark Phillips

 Columbia, TN



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panamared5(at)brier.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

 	  Quote: 	
		  When I painted my RV-6 eight years ago, my cost of materials (PPG 

Concept single stage) was close to $1000.



Wish I could've sprayed my plane in two hours...bet I had 15 hours 

just in masking.............. )-:



Sam Buchanan


	


I agree.  And I only painted a single color with no primer!  Even 

with a single color, you still have to mask!?!



Bob

RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"

capsteve

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Heres a pic of my 6a getting painted at my shop. I parked it in front during the day to showoff but had to move it because it caused a few accidents with the traffic out front. Any quality auto paint shop can do a great job. Just pull the wings and flatbed the fuse. I did mine in basecoat clearcoat because the painters were most familiar with that system. I think I have 500-600 in materials and 20hrs of shop time.   

Steve dinieri  

Iflyrv10  

   

   

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acepilot(at)bloomer.net
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Man, am I glad I'm going the polished route!!  I think I can do the few 

fiberglass parts with spray bombs from Wal Mart...



Scott

http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/

Gotta Fly or Gonna Die

Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)



Andy Gold wrote:



[quote] 



 I painted my plane with three colors of Imron.  The total cost of 

 materials was about $400.  I did all the prep work myself, built a 

 booth in my garage, and asked a local pro to come over and squirt the 

 top coat.  He did a great job and had about 2 hours into the whole 

 thing. I bought him a case of scotch and went flying with him a couple 

 times.  Everyone walked away very happy.



 With mine, the prep work was just that - "work". Its nothing difficult 

 or anything that requries any unusual skills.  But it takes a lot of 

 time and that's why your local shop wants $7200.  The only part of the 

 job that takes skill and experience to get right is the final squirt.



 If you want to see how to prep and paint your RV, get Sam James's 

 Painting 101 video.  (Its at Builder's Bookstore  www.buildersbooks.com )



 Andy





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doug.medema(at)comcast.ne
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

I just got done  having my plane painted.  I also shopped around and

 had quotes of $7000  (plus any required body work) to $10,000.  I 

 decided it was too  much and would do it on my own.  Boy was I

 naive!

  

 I couldn't do  anything in my own hangar at a public airport, so I

 made arrangements to  work at a friend's hangar at an airpark.  I

 proceeded to take  the whole airplane apart and set up a paint

 booth  in a Costco  car tent in my back yard.  I bought a big

 compressor and a  DeVilbiss FinishLine 3 HVLP gun.  Based

 on Randy Lervold's  recommendations, I went with PPG Concept.

 I washed, acid  etched, scuffed and alodyned all the aluminum.  I 

 spent a lot of time  on the fiberglass and used almost a whole gallon

 of K38 high build  primer, most of which ended up on everything

 in my shop when I  sanded it off.  I also used quite a bit of 

 SuperFil.  I  started painting the color coats with white Concept.

 It wasn't great, but  it wasn't horrible either.  Had the usual

 problems with dust,  runs, and orange peel.  There is a real art

 to putting on the  final coat.  You really can't sand very much

 because you will cut  through a rivet or just a high spot on the

 aluminum.  When  I painted the empennage fairing with a dark

 blue, I kind of lost  it.  The one piece had orange peel, runs, and

 dust everywhere,  even with fans and filters. I decided I couldn't

 do a job I would be  happy with.  I went back to the shop who

 quoted $10,000 and  asked them how much just to put on 

 the color.   They said between $3000 and $4000.  Based on

 really good review  from a person I trust (Terry Burch), I decided

 to go ahead an do  that.  I brought the pieces to them in

 sanded  primer/sealer.  They had to spray a coat of primer and

 then basecoat  clearcoat.  I ended up eating some Concept,

 but that's the way  it goes.  I spent upwards of 200 hours

 over the summer  doing the prep and priming.  I know it's a lot

 of hours, but there  is a lot to do, especially with the fiberglass

 work.  There  are a lot of pin holes and they will show up if

 you don't totally  take care of them.  I had one of the very first

 S type cowls, and it  was rough in places. I ended up spending

 about $3000 for  materials plus $3800 to the paint shop.  This

 doesn't count the  compressor, paint gun, tent, lights, fans, etc.

  

 Plenty of people  paint there own airplanes, and I admire them

 for it.  It is  a lot of work.  I took my plane down in late April

 and didn't fly again  until September.  In hindsight, I really

 wished I had just  bit the bullet and had the whole thing done.

 That is one person's  opinion.  Your mileage may vary.

  

 If your curious on  how it came out, check out:

 home.comcast.net/~doug.medema.

  

 Doug  Medema

 RV-6A  N276DM

  

 

  12/13/2007 9:15 AM

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rblassett(at)alltel.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Doug,

  

 Man  you hit the nail on the head.  I've painted a few airplanes and the amount  of work required for a nice finish is much more than you would  think.

  

 Russ

  

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d-burton(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

Hi Doug,  

   

Good advice.  There is the pride of having done most of it yourself and I’m sure it was a good learning experience.  Regardless of how you got there the plane looks fabulous!  I can’t wait to see it in person.  

   

Dave,  

RV6  

   

         

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema

 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:13 PM

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  [quote]I just got done having my plane painted [b]

shempdowling(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: Cost of Paint Job

So how much did you have to pay the auto paint guys?



Shemp

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