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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

[quote]   Has anyone considered    adding a dump valve to thier fuel system. Just seems like being able    to

   get rid of most or    all of your fuel if you are being forced to land in "tiger country" would    be

   a good    idea.

    

   Any    thoughts???

    

   craig

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josok-e(at)ukolo.fi
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

Statistically the number one reason for crashes and forced landings is running out of fuel. Adding fuel dump valves is adding one more possible failure mode leading to running without fuel. Most of these cases are pilot error. Best leave the pilot home  Flying safety is a compromise. If you keep adding everything one could possibly think of, you will end up with a plane that will so heavy that it will never leave the ground. Which makes it a pretty safe thing which is not an airplane any more. 

More specific to the Europa and it's backrest fuel tank, i can't remember fire balls on crashing. Only with added fuel tanks. 



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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

Oh i realize fire is not a primary issue in a forced landing, and I am not sure what the availability of airstrips is like in Europe, but with some areas of Australia once you leave the coastal strip you could be looking at

an hour or more of flying before you have any options for landing because

of the mountains and total lack of population. Given that, landing in trees

is mostly your only option, and just seems like less weight would be a good thing in that situation IMHO

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

Craig

  

 From memory I think I had to remove the  starter motor and the water pump header and hoses from the rear of the  engine.

 The standard alternator stayed in  place.

  

 Regards

  

 David Steade

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

Hi Craig,



Funny that you bring up this lack of emergency landing places up. It is really the same here. A forest fire check flight last 3 hours, around the airport basically, and less then 20 minutes in reach of some road or flat spot. So far the only damage we had was from a freak storm while parked at the airport. Only from the reactions of other pilots, not used to these circumstances, i realized that there is a difference. I guess that it all translates to be precise, be careful, do not accept any "maybe it is good enough". We keep flying because it's fun and after all the roads are more dangerous, with reindeer and mouse and tourist distracted by them  



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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: Fuel Dump Valve

Yes we have the same problem here with the wildlife, mostly they like to

throw themselves infront of your car and destroy it for you



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