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tkrolfe(at)toast.net
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 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: ultralight expolsion |
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Bryan Dever wrote:
Bryan,
He is not only nuts but disgusting. As builder and creator of things my
whole life, I am always stun d when I witness unnecessary destruction of
things for someones perverted entertainment. Reminds me of the vogue
several years ago with the destroying of finely crafted guitars at the
end of rock concerts to the hoots and hollers of the crowd. Says
something about people with two much money and no real skill at
producing anything of quality, just destruction! Also about their
perverse idea of fun! They could never have built that fine guitar if
their life depended on it!!! Says something of about the crowds also!!!!!
Yes, it may have been an older, not in good shape ultralight, but there
are more productive ways of disposing of it. Thank goodness it wasn't a
Kolb! I do know, I don't want to meet or know the idiot hooping and
hollering during filming of the clip. He is a sub-species to me!
Terry - FireFly #95
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jb92563
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: Re: ultralight expolsion |
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I think that you will see a lot more of these as the Jan 31 deadline passes and causes otherwise fully functional Fat Ultralights to become drastically devalued. (Not saying that this was the case for the movie clip)
The clever people will advertise their Fat Ultralights for sale in Canada as their Ultralight category can accommodate the FAT US models apparently.
The Canadian dollar is strong compared to the US dollar so it becomes even more attractive for Canadians looking for good deals on US Fat Ultralights that missed the deadline.
I know of at least one on this list that is looking for a good deal on a fat Kolb that will miss the deadline.
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bransom(at)ucdavis.edu
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: ultralight expolsion |
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Register the Fat UL as U.S. Amateur Experimental and keep on flying.
-Ben
jb92563 wrote:
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I think that you will see a lot more of these as the Jan 31 deadline passes and causes otherwise fully functional Fat Ultralights to become drastically devalued. (Not saying that this was the case for the movie clip)
The clever people will advertise their Fat Ultralights for sale in Canada as their Ultralight category can accommodate the FAT US models apparently.
The Canadian dollar is strong compared to the US dollar so it becomes even more attractive for Canadians looking for good deals on US Fat Ultralights that missed the deadline.
I know of at least one on this list that is looking for a good deal on a fat Kolb that will miss the deadline.
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jb92563
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: ultralight expolsion |
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Can you imagine how hard it would be to prove to the FAA examiner that an Ultralight is actually an airworthy aircraft that was built to normal aircraft airworthiness standards after its already closed up AND somehow verify that it was at least 51% build by an amateur.
You would have to choose your DAR very carefully and create quite a bit of documentation and photos to prove your case.
Not to say that it's impossible with the right DAR...just a major pain in the butt.
I have to go through the process with a Moni Motorglider and at the very first step....registering for an N-number they already put on the brakes and want verification from a DAR that it really is a Glider.......jeez they already have a number of Moni's in their database registered as gliders....how annoying...they did not even check their own records.
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lcottrell
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: ultralight expolsion |
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bransom(at)ucdavis.edu
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: ultralight expolsion |
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OK, yep, I was assuming the owner wanting registration (instead of
explosion or devalue) was also the 51% builder.
-Ben
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Can you imagine how hard it would be to prove to the FAA examiner that an Ultralight is actually an airworthy aircraft that was built to normal aircraft airworthiness standards after its already closed up AND somehow verify that it was at least 51% build by an amateur.
You would have to choose your DAR very carefully and create quite a bit of documentation and photos to prove your case.
Not to say that it's impossible with the right DAR...just a major pain in the butt.
I have to go through the process with a Moni Motorglider and at the very first step....registering for an N-number they already put on the brakes and want verification from a DAR that it really is a Glider.......jeez they already have a number of Moni's in their database registered as gliders....how annoying...they did not even check their own records.
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Moni MotorGlider
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Riverside County, CA
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Wade Lawicki
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: ultralight expolsion |
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Listen to the audio, you can hear the chopper, probably for a movie stunt as not many people would be dumb enough to waste a flyable plane and be able to pay for the chopper and skydive down, not to mention the ability to obtain explosives and the knowledge to use them,
Fly Safe, Wade
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