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AV8ORJWC



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: collision avoidance Reply with quote

Technically speaking the Garmin products are now made outside the US of
A and they are now situated safely, from a corporate environment on a
Caribbean Island (away from CONUS).

Formerly they were from Olathe, Kansas, represented mid-America value,
made a great product, bought (Morrow Electronics - Salem, OR) which had
been acquired by UPS (so they could track their trucks and compete with
FEDEX)and the rest is our wide range of Christmas GPS choices.

Bring on the optional ADS-B suppliers. My money is always quickly
converted (what little I have).

I will know when Garmin decides to flex their muscle and become
predominant in aviation when they drop the price on the twin G-900 and
ADS-B for widespread fleet consumption by us little folks. Take a
lesson from your handheld GPS products.

Merry Christmas,

John C

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Joined: 30 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: collision avoidance Reply with quote

I have been flying with an XRX for about 1 1/2 years now. At first it was with the stand alone unit and for the past 6 months with the Garmin interface. I placed my unit on the glare shield and discovered that it was difficult for me to see the screen due to ambient light. I found that a white sheet of paper in front of the screen reflected the light and made the screen readable. So I cut a sheet of plastic to fit under the unit and extend 1-2" in front of the screen. I covered the extension with white label paper and was able to see the screen without a problem. On the stand alone unit you have to look at the screen periodically to see if traffic is displayed. It only warns you when traffic gets within the two warning parameters..

Now with the Garmin interface it is much better. The screen just says Garmin and traffic is displayed on my GPS 396. Traffic is displayed on the map page according to your setup. When traffic gets within the warning parameters you get a pop up window with the warning. Overall, this has been a good investment. I have seen traffic that I would have missed without it. Still, I get warnings where I do not see the traffic. It has not been false echos as this has occurred with ATC advisories and map display and still I never see the traffic. So, this unit is another good resource for collision avoidance. Traffic in the pattern is easier to pick up.

JF


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Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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Location: Appleton, WI USA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: collision avoidance Reply with quote

I believe Zaon is working on an ADS-B module for their next product which is a built in system. They were showing it in OSH. Don't recall the price though.

Michael

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: collision avoidance Reply with quote

Does anyone know anything about Aveo Engineering's offerings? I saw this company at Oshkosh this year, and they were displaying a very interesting line of products. I haven't heard much of anything about them.

Here's their transponder/com/traffic unit for a mere $1,577:

http://www.aveousa.net/av57inavdi1.html

Steve Weinstock
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In a message dated 12/19/2007 2:44:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, wcurtis(at)nerv10.com writes:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" <wcurtis(at)nerv10.com>

Ah, got it. But I think it is the fault of the competition (Bendix/King, Chelton, L3, Aviddyne, et al). 

I guess I'm trying to figure out what is preventing the competition from coming out with their own product and giving Garmin a run for their money. I don't see the experimental EFIS makers entering this market because as with Transponders and GPS, ADS-B devices will probably have to be TSO'd, even for experimentals. Garmin used GPS to spearhead their way to avionics dominance, and nothing I see should prevent one of the other vendors from using ADS-B to do the same. I don't see this a the fault of Garmin, I see it as the fault of the so-called competition.

William
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[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>

Lack of viable competition creates a stranglehold for most competitors
and hence the customer. More suppliers, constant demand - better
pricing. The GDL-90 is made in Salem, Oregon.

John

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: collision avoidance Reply with quote

Hi Steve

I saw their products at KOSH as well. Like yourself I was very interested especially when looking at the *promised* functionality versus cost.

I have traded emails with the owners over the past few months but so far everything seems to be in the future. If you contact them and get any additional info, I would be interested.

Cheers

Les Kearney
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of EFDsteve(at)aol.com
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Does anyone know anything about Aveo Engineering's offerings? I saw this company at Oshkosh this year, and they were displaying a very interesting line of products. I haven't heard much of anything about them.



Here's their transponder/com/traffic unit for a mere $1,577:



http://www.aveousa.net/av57inavdi1.html



Steve Weinstock

40230



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: collision avoidance Reply with quote

I, too, have looked at their web site and emailed the company. So far just vague future promises. The products look nice and at a reasonable price point. In my thinking, I'm waiting to see if they (or anyone else) has an offering at SNF, if not, I am going to go with the Zoan XRX.

Jeff


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